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40717_1310644052.gif [quote="EL CAMO":fjdx2oe5]The majority of fans at Craven Park...are idiots who know nothing about the game.[/quote:fjdx2oe5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40717.gif |
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40717_1310644052.gif [quote="EL CAMO":fjdx2oe5]The majority of fans at Craven Park...are idiots who know nothing about the game.[/quote:fjdx2oe5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40717.gif |
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| Quote: tommyfromhull "Well £21k from now, not for the 100,000s of students who went to Uni before the coalition government.
And I doubt that someone with a degree will be earning below £21k for 25 years!'"
Well we are talking about from now....... And, maybe not but whether they've repaid a £15k loan in that time is a different story
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "So £21k then.. and if your wages drop below that or you lose your job, you don't pay and the interest (1% ish) is frozen...... after 25 years the remaining debt is wiped out!!'"
The interest on the loan for the fees is inflation plus 3%. A graduate who gets a good job will pay back between £50k and £75k for a £21k loan. You start building up interest from day 1 of your course.
The interest on the maintenance loan varies and is set every year based on either the rate of inflation on on an average of the base rate charged by three major banks, whichever is lower. Again, you start building up interest from day 1 of your course.
The maximum maintenance loan is £5k per year and it's means tested. The minimum is £3.5k. The average living cost is somewhere between £8k and £10k per year. The shortfall has to be found by the student or his/her family.
And I'll ask again - how much of a working class person's tax bill goes towards these costs?
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40717_1310644052.gif [quote="EL CAMO":fjdx2oe5]The majority of fans at Craven Park...are idiots who know nothing about the game.[/quote:fjdx2oe5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40717.gif |
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| Quote: Kosh "The interest on the loan for the fees is inflation plus 3%. A graduate who gets a good job will pay back between £50k and £75k for a £21k loan. You start building up interest from day 1 of your course.
The interest on the maintenance loan varies and is set every year based on either the rate of inflation on on an average of the base rate charged by three major banks, whichever is lower. Again, you start building up interest from day 1 of your course.
The maximum maintenance loan is £5k per year and it's means tested. The minimum is £3.5k. The average living cost is somewhere between £8k and £10k per year. The shortfall has to be found by the student or his/her family.
And I'll ask again - how much of a working class person's tax bill goes towards these costs?'"
1.5% interest where i've seen.... And the working class foot the bill for those which don't clear this 50-75k you speak of!!!
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "1.5% interest where i've seen.... And the working class foot the bill for those which don't clear this 50-75k you speak of!!!'"
You've made some stupid statements on this thread, but the idea that its the 'working class' that foot this supposed bill just takes the biscuit.
But you carry on thinking your 20% tax on a 'working class' salary is saving the economy. The government will get far more money back in taxes from graduates, even if they never had to pay their fees back, or have you just forgotten that?
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "1.5% interest where i've seen.... And the working class foot the bill for those which don't clear this 50-75k you speak of!!!'"
You're looking at the current rates. From next year the rate is as I've stated. Always useful to have correct facts when trying to make a point.
The £50k-£75k is what gets paid back, not what it costs the taxpayer. And you still haven't told me how much actual cash the typical working class person will contribute towards the cost of these loans. I'll give you a clue - it's peanuts. The average graduate will contribute far more towards benefits for the lower paid.
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| Can't beleive how OTT this thread has become.
Sports clubs don't offer student tickets because they are some charity kick, or to annoy the 'working class' fans, they offer them for the simple reason that the majority of passholders aged 16 and under attend games with their parents, once they become 17/18 lots of other attractions other than rugby become on offer, and discounted passes helps keep these fans attending games. If the clubs prices went from £49 at 16, to £200 at 17 many fans would ditch the club and the game, and once gone fans are hard to win back.
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| Quote: UllFC "Can't beleive how OTT this thread has become.
Sports clubs don't offer student tickets because they are some charity kick, or to annoy the 'working class' fans, they offer them for the simple reason that the majority of passholders aged 16 and under attend games with their parents, once they become 17/18 lots of other attractions other than rugby become on offer, and discounted passes helps keep these fans attending games. If the clubs prices went from £49 at 16, to £200 at 17 many fans would ditch the club and the game, and once gone fans are hard to win back.'"
Correct.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: UllFC "Can't beleive how OTT this thread has become.
Sports clubs don't offer student tickets because they are some charity kick, or to annoy the 'working class' fans, they offer them for the simple reason that the majority of passholders aged 16 and under attend games with their parents, once they become 17/18 lots of other attractions other than rugby become on offer, and discounted passes helps keep these fans attending games. If the clubs prices went from £49 at 16, to £200 at 17 many fans would ditch the club and the game, and once gone fans are hard to win back.'"
My Daughters pass went from £49 to £195 as she went into work....didnt stop her from going.
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| Quote: fc baldy "My Daughters pass went from £49 to £195 as she went into work....didnt stop her from going.'"
I think the clue to why she did not stop going is in your statement.... went into work
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "I think the clue to why she did not stop going is in your statement....went into work
And???/ so if they dont manage to get work...the club should reduce the passes.
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| Quote: fc baldy "And???/ so if they dont manage to get work...the club should reduce the passes.'"
There is a difference between being unemployed and being a full-time student. For starters most unemployed get jobseekers allowance, and most full-time student get nothing and still have to pay £1000s a year in fee's and living costs, even students who are fortunate to find part-time work are £1000s down each year.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "There is a difference between being unemployed and being a full-time student. For starters most unemployed get jobseekers allowance, and most full-time student get nothing and still have to pay £1000s a year in fee's and living costs, even students who are fortunate to find part-time work are £1000s down each year.'"
What about those that are on minimun wage or with agencys??...they get sod all to help them.
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| Quote: fc baldy "What about those that are on minimun wage or with agencys??...they get sod all to help them.'"
They are not paying £1000s a year in degree fee's and living costs....a person may well be on a low wage but this is still a lot more than a student gets, they do not get any wage unless they find part-time work and this barely covers their living costs!
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "They are not paying £1000s a year in degree fee's and living costs....a person may well be on a low wage but this is still a lot more than a student gets, they do not get any wage unless they find part-time work and this barely covers their living costs!'"
Awe...boo bloody hoo.
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