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| I wonder how many people actually fit the bill to apply for those requirements. I can think of one from the other side of the city who was formerley employed by us and since he left I think our conditioning of the team has plummetted.
He was headhunted as top class in his field, and maybe we should do the same and headhunt him back.
Looking for job description for our vacant post but not having tooo much luck.
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "I wonder how many people actually fit the bill to apply for those requirements. I can think of one from the other side of the city who was formerley employed by us and since he left I think our conditioning of the team has plummetted.
He was headhunted as top class in his field, and maybe we should do the same and headhunt him back.
Looking for job description for our vacant post but not having tooo much luck.'"
He wasn't, and never has been, top class in his field (assuming you mean Mr "run up and down Branny Dale" Mallinson?)
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "I wonder how many people actually fit the bill to apply for those requirements. I can think of one from the other side of the city who was formerley employed by us and since he left I think our conditioning of the team has plummetted.
He was headhunted as top class in his field, and maybe we should do the same and headhunt him back.
Looking for job description for our vacant post but not having tooo much luck.'"
Thought they'd already offered you job Billy.
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "I wonder how many people actually fit the bill to apply for those requirements. I can think of one from the other side of the city who was formerley employed by us and since he left I think our conditioning of the team has plummetted.
He was headhunted as top class in his field, and maybe we should do the same and headhunt him back.
Looking for job description for our vacant post but not having tooo much luck.'"
We always faded in the playoffs, like the Dobbins do now. That Billy Mallinson for you
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| There are limited opportunities for head coaches of strength and conditioning around the rugby league world. He has held these positions at Hull and Rovers for the last umpteen years. Maybe he keeps his position because he knows what he is talking about and can put theory into practice. Maybe his record of developing the strength and conditioning of professional players keeps him in the job and maybe he takes them running up Brantingham now n then. He's succcessful at what he does. Otherwise he'd be out of work in this very specific area of employment.
What is your evidence why he isn't top class in his job? cos they run up and down hills? please let me know as this year i study strength and conditioning at University to complete my sports and fitness degree. I'd much rather pay you to lecture me than highly qualified professional experts of sports science and fitness NOT !!!!
If you knew anything about this subject i'd save a fortune and pay you instead, but alas as you know nothing i'll have to shell out a fortune to the experts. Please dont start PM'ing me like last year when you tried unsuccessfully to lecture me on sports psychology. I passed that course by the way by ignoring your intuitive knowledge and I'll do the same this year.
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "There are limited opportunities for head coaches of strength and conditioning around the rugby league world. He has held these positions at Hull and Rovers for the last umpteen years. Maybe he keeps his position because he knows what he is talking about and can put theory into practice. Maybe his record of developing the strength and conditioning of professional players keeps him in the job and maybe he takes them running up Brantingham now n then. He's succcessful at what he does. Otherwise he'd be out of work in this very specific area of employment.
What is your evidence why he isn't top class in his job? cos they run up and down hills? please let me know as this year i study strength and conditioning at University to complete my sports and fitness degree. I'd much rather pay you to lecture me than highly qualified professional experts of sports science and fitness NOT !!!!
If you knew anything about this subject i'd save a fortune and pay you instead, but alas as you know nothing i'll have to shell out a fortune to the experts. Please dont start PM'ing me like last year when you tried unsuccessfully to lecture me on sports psychology. I passed that course by the way by ignoring your intuitive knowledge and I'll do the same this year.'"
Well said, there certainly seem to be a lot of so called experts in conditioning on this thread. Like to see any of em run up and down Brantingham Dale
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| Quote: Kosh "Think this is where the cross-purposes is coming from. Neither I nor (I think) carl_spackler counts the negotiation of contracts as having 'influence' over recruitment and hence the playing side of the club. Rule likely won't have made any decisions regarding who to offer contracts to or even the best terms and conditions to offer.'"
Nailed it.
IMO his role on such things was probably just as a go between and to tidy up the paperwork.
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "There are limited opportunities for head coaches of strength and conditioning around the rugby league world. He has held these positions at Hull and Rovers for the last umpteen years. Maybe he keeps his position because he knows what he is talking about and can put theory into practice. Maybe his record of developing the strength and conditioning of professional players keeps him in the job and maybe he takes them running up Brantingham now n then. He's succcessful at what he does. Otherwise he'd be out of work in this very specific area of employment.
What is your evidence why he isn't top class in his job? cos they run up and down hills? please let me know as this year i study strength and conditioning at University to complete my sports and fitness degree. I'd much rather pay you to lecture me than highly qualified professional experts of sports science and fitness NOT !!!!
If you knew anything about this subject i'd save a fortune and pay you instead, but alas as you know nothing i'll have to shell out a fortune to the experts. Please dont start PM'ing me like last year when you tried unsuccessfully to lecture me on sports psychology. I passed that course by the way by ignoring your intuitive knowledge and I'll do the same this year.'"
yes, he's been so successful the teams he has conditioned have rarely troubled the playoffs, he is outdated and out of his depth, I am glad he's at KR.
congratulations on passing the course by the way
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| Quote: Garry Brindley Esq. "
My reply is pretty much what he and Kosh have said. He'll be involved, but only in putting into action decisions made by others, which IMO doesn't constitute having an influence on the playing side.
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| Quote: Standee "yes, he's been so successful the teams he has conditioned have rarely troubled the playoffs, he is outdated and out of his depth, I am glad he's at KR.
congratulations on passing the course by the way'"
I think, and i am only guessing here. it may have something to do with the quality of players/coach dont you think?? You could be the fittest, most ripped sportsman on the planet but if you cant catch a rugby ball or tackle the opposition you are not going to trouble the playoffs as you put it.
didnt we finish 2nd in SL during his time at the club??
Love to know where you get all this in depth knowledge on conditioning?
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| Quote: VerbalKint "Love to know where you get all this in depth knowledge on conditioning?'"
reading books, articles, having a sports science qualification, having being involved in fitness (admittedly P/T) for 15 years until I quit last year, speaking to players from RL and many other sports.
I am far from an "up to the minute expert", but I do know what has been said to me about Mallinsons practices in the past.
and you?
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "Looking for job description for our vacant post but not having tooo much luck.'"
We don't have a vacancy.
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "There are limited opportunities for head coaches of strength and conditioning around the rugby league world. He has held these positions at Hull and Rovers for the last umpteen years. Maybe he keeps his position because he knows what he is talking about and can put theory into practice. Maybe his record of developing the strength and conditioning of professional players keeps him in the job and maybe he takes them running up Brantingham now n then. He's succcessful at what he does. Otherwise he'd be out of work in this very specific area of employment.'"
Towards the end of his time at FC questions were being asked about our squad's fitness. You claim he was headhunted to Rovers but IIRC Peter Sharp released him as he wasn't happy with the condition of the players following one pre-season. During recent times questions have also been asked about the fitness of the Rovers squad.
Long service at two of SL's less successful sides isn't really a stunning CV when you think about it.
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| Quote: Standee "reading books, articles, having a sports science qualification, having being involved in fitness (admittedly P/T) for 15 years until I quit last year, speaking to players from RL and many other sports.
I am far from an "up to the minute expert", but I do know what has been said to me about Mallinsons practices in the past.
and you?'"
Never claimed to have any knowledge of the world of sports science, just wondered where you got yours.
Check who was conditioning coach when we last won any silverware by the way
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