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| Quote: Staffs FC "4 or 5 years ago a Pearson bid would have been far more agreeable. As things stand it seems like another of Allam's chess pieces has been moved. If AP opens with an unequivocal statement of support for Hull FC remaining independent and a club in its own right, with a cast iron long term lease at the KC to back that up, then maybe I will change my opinion. I'm one for trusting gut reaction and mine to this news is total suspicion.
For those who seem to want to talk down the current board's achievements I would remind them that without this board and the decisions they have made there probably wouldn't be a club any more. We have underachieved even with two CC finals and a grand final in the last decade, however we are also profitable and on a sound footing. A change of direction on the field, if it happens, will not be unwelcome, but don't slag the body of people who have ensured there is still a Hull FC club to support.'"
Couldn't agree more. While people are quick to jump on the board for all their failings they have done a lot right off the field. Would this club be were they are now without them. Yes they have probably made a profit but 12 years can hardly be classed as a quick buck, and they had to take on the risk in the first place. It almost ended in disaster inside one year with Gateshead.
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| Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "I'm sorry but are you for real? When he joined Hull City they were in Division 3, when he left they were in the Premiership..'"
No they weren't they had just stayed up due to Leeds going into admin and getting a points deduction, sity finished 4th bottom of the championship. Bartlett presided over the promotion season.
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| Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "Does the SMC not control the KC? And Allam controls the SMC?'"
The SMC manage the KC on behalf of the Council, it amazes me people's inability to understand that Allam cannot simply do "as he pleases, when he pleases", it suits the Rovers trolls, but I would have hoped an FC fan would understand it.
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| Quote: barham red "Maybe I am but he seems to leave a trail mismanagement behind him, the biggest worry I have is the link between Allam and Pearson and the coincidence that they ahve both got involved in RL at exactly the same time after both saying they weren't interested at all.'"
Agreed. All RL fans in the city who don't want a merger should be concerned IMO.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "allam stated he wouldn't buy one club without the other so can't buy us without completely contradicting himself.
pearson is a football man and there is no big money available in RL. Why would he want to buy a club in a sport he knows nothing about where there is very little potential to make any real money?
He's a front for allam'"
Allam also said he did not want to be seen to favour one club over the other, then about 2 months later he dropped £1m through rovers letter box.
Sport is a business and as such the senior management of sporting companies are easily transferable. Agreed that there is no big money in RL, but then again there are not the outgoings that there are in football. I don;t have access to exact figures, but lets say that Hull FC's fixed costs (rent and total salaries) are about £3.5m per year. With the variable expenditure we have we still post a profit on income of around £5m (again this is an estimate) bu this is on an average gate of 12000 ish. Many, including myself, beleive that with a team at the right end of the table being coached by a top manager we could easily get an average gate of 15000. Concervative estimate of £750k extra income, all of which falls to the bottom line, all of which belongs to AP. There is money to be had by those who own, providing the product on the field is a winning one.
If this deal goes ahead, which by the sounds of it, it will AP will give Agar until the end of the season, then I would expect to see a change of team coach. He will not rock the boat too much in the short term, given the point in the season we are. Pearson knows that its the coach which is the key personnel.
The removal of the current board is something many have hankered for. Let hope they are true to their word and start returning to support the team.
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| Quote: major black "Negative spin from a rovers fans what a surprise. I have mixed feeling about this, one thing I am sure about is that Pearson is not a pawn of the Allams.'"
Yet so positive from an FC fan who would no doubt be negative about Allams involvement in KR.
In isolation Pearson taking over FC and Allams involvement in KR are no worry whatsoever, but together it becomes a bigger worry. I can;t believe the 2 things are not linked.
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| I'm in two minds with this news.
On the one hand we have a new owner and that will breath life back into a club that although making a profit has been struggling on the field for any success due to to reluctance of the BOD to invest in the coaching staff.
On the other I am a little unnervy purely down to the connection he has with Assem Allam.
However Assem Allam could quite easily have bought the club himself and would have enjjoyed the limelight of anniouncing he had bought it so I can't really Pearson buying it for him. Pearson has been involved with Nick Barmby in previous unsuccessful takeover bids so he may well be a part of Pearsons takeover this time around too, I hope so as we all know he is a big FC fan.
It could also be true that Pearson wants to leave Hull City and head this up on his own, if this is the case it can only be good. With the fansbase, merchandising etc this club could be a very good business with the lower operating costs compared to football. Pearson has always seemingly spoken openly and sensibly in the past regarding City, never ducking uncomfortable times and questions plus he turned them round from the perenial under achievers they were.
He was also I am led to beleive instrumental in getting International RL back to the KC stadium.
I am still wary but as long as we as fans are given some guarantee it is 100% free from any association from Assem Allam then I will be very happy about the news.
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Although I reserve my judgement at present if Ellam had wanted it he would have bought it, in my opinion.
Folks will be suspitious but if it happens then we have an owner who has never done a single disshonourable act in all the years he has been in the City. We love our club so have to be concerned with his ties to the Allams but James Rule has built a sports club that is actually in the black and a good prospect all we need now is some success on the field and a ruthless approach to what goes on, on the field, Pearson has those qualities. He probabaly realises that with a strong attractive winning team we can match City's gates with a fraction of the overheads. If this happens he has to come out with a strong (un fuzzy) statement of intent and address those concerns if he is to get off on the right foot with the fans. We don't know the facts yet but the press will be digging for news today I just hope this announcement doesn't scupper the deal before it gets off the ground.
In the mean time I reserve my judgement.'"
Wish I could afford it Wilf.
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| isn't hull fc a more profitable option at the moment than hull city? i would think it is, seems pearsons' buisness head can work that one out too
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| Quote: barham red "Yet so positive from an FC fan who would no doubt be negative about Allams involvement in KR.
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couldn't give to$$. I am just bothered about my club I am bothered by the Allams bullying tactics with regards to buying the KC though.
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| Pearson as sole owner could be good news but despite a lot of moaning we are in a very good situation as a club. A new head coach apart possibly.
The problem is his links with the Allams, it casts a huge shadow over the whole thing for me.
People have complained about this board saying there is no one with a rugby brain involved but lets face it Pearson knows even less about the game so that situation won't change.
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| Quote: Standee "The SMC manage the KC on behalf of the Council, it amazes me people's inability to understand that Allam cannot simply do "as he pleases, when he pleases", it suits the Rovers trolls, but I would have hoped an FC fan would understand it.'"
I understand he can't do as he pleases, but I would define what he does as having 'control' over the KC.
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| Quote: number 6 "isn't hull fc a more profitable option at the moment than hull city? i would think it is, seems pearsons' buisness head can work that one out too'"
Putting his money in the bank is more profitable than invetsing in Hull FC as well, sport is never a sound investment its normally done for either the love of the club / sport / bit of fun or PR reasons.
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| Quote: PAUL M "
People have complained about this board saying there is no one with a rugby brain involved but lets face it Pearson knows even less about the game so that situation won't change.'"
an ideal opportunity to bring in a director of rugby? noble?
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