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| Quote: PAUL M "I'd take Long over Obst but in fairness Obst has had some good games too, don't just judge the last one against Hudds.
Log is not under contract and Obst is, I think Obst will stay.'"
I thought Obst signed a 2 year deal anyway?.
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| Quote: Raised Elbow "I thought Obst signed a 2 year deal anyway?.'"
He did,so won't be going anywhere.
6) Obst,Nicklas
7)Long,Ellis,Williams,
9)Houghton,Heremaia
Possibly the end of Horne,and use the £50k ruling on Yeaman?
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| Quote: berro's best mate "no, but im saying its a good indicator on personel performance....
football managers for years have used the opta stats as a benchmark in recruitment,focusing on individuals and there performnace game to game...
all im saying is the stats dont lie....
hence farah and smith being australias 2 top ruck men......and them being australias starting hookers.....
gallen,luke bailey,thruston,gasnier are all top of there individual fantasy groups...and suprise suprise, there all rep players!!!!'"
So is Heremaia.
The Smith is not only a 80 min player he kicks goals!
It doesn't always work, take Lockyer.
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| Quote: JMR "
But is this a sign of lesser-quality Aussies returning to the fold (in view of higher salaries in the NRL)?
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I think so, definately. And Hull have done well to get in early - pickings are going to be thinner for everybody. The so-called 'has-beens' will be a year or two older, the 'never-going-to-be's' slightly poorer. It'll be interesting to see if some clubs go for perhaps just 3 non-fed players, spending big on them, and make up the numbers with kids or go for more depth. Certainly, developing your own players and signings like Ellis have become economic necessities, rather than requiring virtue and selflessness (always unlikely in a competitive environment). None are jaw-dropping, but I think these three signings are a decent blend.
Quote: JMR "Hes not even 29 now so how can he be pushing 30 ?
Turns 29 in 5 weeks though. By the time he debuts 29 and 1/2, which tbf is pushing 30. Late developer though so his body shouldn't have been put through the mill too much and on a two-year deal shouldn't be a massive concern.
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| I think its a real good signing , can play 7 or 9 and is a good age . We were never get a Cronk or thurston and he got bags of experience .hope he sees it as a fresh start maybe due to awful tragedy that happened to him
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| Very strange signing. Seems we've gone for who's available rather than who's needed. The only positive for me is that he can kick in open play, and we're crying out for someone that can do that. Unfortunately, it's looking like when all are fit, Long and Horne will still be our best two half's, and Obst and Heremaia will both be competing with Houghton for hooker. I just can't see the logic in this unless we're fully aware of how injury prone McKinnon is, and we're expecting Horne to play lots of games at fullback, forcing one of the hookers into the half's. I can't see Ellis getting too many games next year.
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| Quote: Raggytash "Very strange signing. Seems we've gone for who's available rather than who's needed. The only positive for me is that he can kick in open play, and we're crying out for someone that can do that. Unfortunately, it's looking like when all are fit, Long and Horne will still be our best two half's, and Obst and Heremaia will both be competing with Houghton for hooker. I just can't see the logic in this unless we're fully aware of how injury prone McKinnon is, and we're expecting Horne to play lots of games at fullback, forcing one of the hookers into the half's. I can't see Ellis getting too many games next year.'"
Be slightly surprised if you keep both Long and Horne now, tbh.
Think Ellis might play more than some are anticipating - he'll be 22 in October and is a stand-out player at table-topping Leigh.
Halfs - Ellis and Long [ior[/i Horne.
Hooker - Houghton and Heremaia.
Cover/competition for both (and if Horne stays, maybe indirectly fullback) - Obst.
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| Bit of a head scratcher this one, and has been mentioned, it must surely signal the end for Long or Horne.
When Gleeson signed for 18 months, I was convincd that Long would get another 12 months out of us and that feeling intensified when we signed Ellis earlier this week.
If this is to be the end of Long or Horney, I hope it is Richard who gets a new contract. He is younger than Longy and has looked more like his old self this season compared to the previous 2 years, plus we might need him to cover at FB when McKinon IS injured. Longy struggles to string half a dozen games together and maybe knows his body is telling him it's time to ring the bell on his career and move on to his next venture, hopefully a coaching position with us.
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| sounds like a good signing to me.
berro rates him highly, as does kearney...which i wouldn't go against their words. he's recently been caled to play for NZ (world cup and 4 nation winners) has experience in the UK and NRL(playing 40+ times this season and strong defender), mainly hooker so rotate with houghton, leaving obst and horney or long to fight for a contract and ellis as cover...plenty of ball handlers in the squad, which i've not seen at FC since i started supporting FC.
The Lauaki, Phelps and Fitzy looking like theyre heading out, Moa, Obst not on O.S.Q we will have another spot free...hoping for a new forward, Moa sign up and rumour is Taylor is waiting for FC to make an offer as he is a FC fan an wants to play for us...
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| Seems to be a strange signing to me and just another obst type player (although may be better). Signifies to me that obst will be one of our 1st choice halfs next season
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| Quote: Offy "sounds like a good signing to me.
berro rates him highly, as does kearney...which i wouldn't go against their words. he's recently been caled to play for NZ (world cup and 4 nation winners) has experience in the UK and NRL(playing 40+ times this season and strong defender), mainly hooker so rotate with houghton, leaving obst and horney or long to fight for a contract and ellis as cover...plenty of ball handlers in the squad, which i've not seen at FC since i started supporting FC.
The Lauaki, Phelps and Fitzy looking like theyre heading out, Moa, Obst not on O.S.Q we will have another spot free...hoping for a new forward, Moa sign up and rumour is Taylor is waiting for FC to make an offer as he is a FC fan an wants to play for us...'"
If thats the case lets move quick, not seen much of him but gets good reports from kr fans i know
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| Hes a good player, defo just a 9 though. Big and mobile so hope he plays like a cross between Swain and Houghton and I'd expect him to start with Houghton coming off the bench and running the ball a lot more as an impact player.
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| I think people are looking to far into it.
We'll re sign Long or sign another Half, We'll re sign Moa and Lauaki and either re sign Fitz or replace him.
FB McKinnon - Whiting - Briscoe
W Briscoe - Sharp - Lyne
C Gleeson - Yeaman - Turner - Crooks
S/O Horne - Obst - Nicklas
H/B Long - Ellis - Williams
H Heremaia - Houghton - Newton
Good cover in the backs and hooker.
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| Looks to me that we have planned for plenty of cover for next season, and given lots of space to patiently develop these youngsters, without putting pressure on them.
I now hope that Long stays at least another year in some sort of capacity, to help with their development.
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