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| agar not enough time he been in charge nearly 3 years now and weve managed to go backwards give him anymore time and this club will struggle to get 8,9k crowds
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "So cheeky. You've been supporting the appointment of Noble all this time and as soon as it threatens to become a >20% possibility you're changing horses? Just laziness on the avatar front, surely? Overtype Agar in your wheelie bin with Noble. Naughty.
No, I'm allowed to change my mind on the new coach before the current one is "binned"
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| Quote: JMSports_Ltd "Except for the fact that he is so well thought of in the game he was wanted for the England job.
Whats to say he wouldnt become an assistant and take over again?
He could lead a Championship side into Super League. Wakefield, Fev, Barrow?
You can never say never.
I follow Quins and believe me, not one person I spoke to game after game down there though Mac would work again when he left Quins.
Depsite the crap he got for the time he was down there the people who knew what he was doing from day to day are now seeing the fruits with plenty of young English lads getting game time and doing a pretty decent job so far this year too (forget today or I look silly)
I agree with a lot of your sentiment regarding laying the blame at the players feet and not just Agar, I have been saying that for long enough on here. The thing is that Agar has had the job a while now and has had the chance to clear out players who behave badly and this is now his team. There are still so many things we do badly, support play, defensive line speed, defensive technique, winning the floor, passing the ball wide quickly I could go on.
A lot of this is players attitudes I agree but it is up to the head coach to change these attitudes and if he can't control the players then that is another thing he is not doing well enough.
I won't be campaigning to get the guy the sack but I don't think we can go on to win things or challenge for trophies with him in charge, he just seems a touch out of his depth.
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| Quote: PAUL M "I agree with a lot of your sentiment regarding laying the blame at the players feet and not just Agar, I have been saying that for long enough on here. The thing is that Agar has had the job a while now and has had the chance to clear out players who behave badly and this is now his team. There are still so many things we do badly, support play, defensive line speed, defensive technique, winning the floor, passing the ball wide quickly I could go on.
A lot of this is players attitudes I agree but it is up to the head coach to change these attitudes and if he can't control the players then that is another thing he is not doing well enough.
I won't be campaigning to get the guy the sack but I don't think we can go on to win things or challenge for trophies with him in charge, he just seems a touch out of his depth.'"
good post but as supporters enough is enough and i hope fans do campaign and do go to games because that seems the only option now which is sad but the only thing we can do
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| Quote: PAUL M "I agree with a lot of your sentiment regarding laying the blame at the players feet and not just Agar, I have been saying that for long enough on here. The thing is that Agar has had the job a while now and has had the chance to clear out players who behave badly and this is now his team. There are still so many things we do badly, support play, defensive line speed, defensive technique, winning the floor, passing the ball wide quickly I could go on.
A lot of this is players attitudes I agree but it is up to the head coach to change these attitudes and if he can't control the players then that is another thing he is not doing well enough.
I won't be campaigning to get the guy the sack but I don't think we can go on to win things or challenge for trophies with him in charge, he just seems a touch out of his depth.'" if a certain player/s doesn't want to change their way then no matter how much a coach tries they cannot change them,even less so if said player/s are doing there job in training etc
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| Quote: PAUL M "I agree with a lot of your sentiment regarding laying the blame at the players feet and not just Agar, I have been saying that for long enough on here. The thing is that Agar has had the job a while now and has had the chance to clear out players who behave badly and this is now his team. There are still so many things we do badly, support play, defensive line speed, defensive technique, winning the floor, passing the ball wide quickly I could go on.
A lot of this is players attitudes I agree but it is up to the head coach to change these attitudes and if he can't control the players then that is another thing he is not doing well enough.
I won't be campaigning to get the guy the sack but I don't think we can go on to win things or challenge for trophies with him in charge, he just seems a touch out of his depth.'"
I would add to that:
If Richard Agar is such a principled man and such a good coach, why has he not spoken out about his concerns and walked away from what must be (according to JMSports), an invidious situation? After all, again according to JMSports, there would be a queue of clubs, looking for his services.
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| Same coach , Differant players , Same results.
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| I'm shocked anyone can still defend Agar, too many caoching errors, he doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, also this year he recruited poorly.
My choice would be Daniel Anderson, he is out of work currentley, the best coach by far out of work, did a great job with Saints.
After that it has to be Noble.
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| In today's HDM Radford backs Agar
rlhttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/fc/hullfc/HULL-FC-Agar-backed-Radford/article-3351892-detail/article.htmlrl
Still don't know how to make the url smaller - apologies.
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| Never going to say anything different to the media is he.
Something needs to change and we can't just replace the full team, so it has to be the coach, history has shown that a good coach can improve a squad alot by just changing small things.
There are 2 reasons why we must make the change ASAP, recruitment (NRL) starts about May so we need a new man in charge to see what the clubs needs and we are still in the CC.
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| Quote: Lee Radford " "After last week's performance at Wigan everyone was buzzing..."'"
This says a lot about our club. I'd have thought that after being in front for nearly the whole game, then getting beaten in the last few minutes by a side reduced to 12 men, the last thing anyone connected with the team ought to be is 'buzzing'.
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| Quote: Rock God X "This says a lot about our club. I'd have thought that after being in front for nearly the whole game, then getting beaten in the last few minutes by a side reduced to 12 men, the last thing anyone connected with the team ought to be is 'buzzing'.'"
Never read that, shocking statement.
Encourged yes, buzzing no.
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| Quote: PAUL M "I agree with a lot of your sentiment regarding laying the blame at the players feet and not just Agar, I have been saying that for long enough on here. The thing is that Agar has had the job a while now and has had the chance to clear out players who behave badly and this is now his team. There are still so many things we do badly, support play, defensive line speed, defensive technique, winning the floor, passing the ball wide quickly I could go on.
A lot of this is players attitudes I agree but it is up to the head coach to change these attitudes and if he can't control the players then that is another thing he is not doing well enough.
I won't be campaigning to get the guy the sack but I don't think we can go on to win things or challenge for trophies with him in charge, he just seems a touch out of his depth.'"
Agree with that, Paul. And if it's true that certain players feel they are 'above the law' then get rid, regardless of who they are. If the BOD won't let him take the necessary actions then he should walk away.
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| Quote: Smiggs "Long can't be d on the pitch, why would you want him coaching off it?'"
I agree. Sean Long for whatever reason [excluding his the injury periods and his first game] I have been disppointed. There may be valid reasons on his part but I, @ present have not seen value for money, from him. He may be doing vluable work 'behind the scenes' but I have not heard so.
We need a good,no nonsense coach in NOW. We cannot wait. Time is not on our side. Going for an overseas coach will take time. While I am not against putting James Webster in temporary charge if that was the course of action decided upon [should Richard Agar leave] I can see many people thinking along the lines of 'here we go again' etcetera.
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| Quote: Dave K. "I'm shocked anyone can still defend Agar, too many caoching errors, he doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, also this year he recruited poorly.
My choice would be Daniel Anderson, he is out of work currentley, the best coach by far out of work, did a great job with Saints.
After that it has to be Noble.'"
Has already said he wants another NRL job. Not defending Agar just saying it's not all his fault, players have to take some blame.
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