crap based upon 2 loses after a playoff finish ?? not crap ... maybe not the standard we need as some state but not crap by any means

Priceless

I think the point Paul's been trying to make is that although in his opinion Agar is not the man to take us to where we want to be, if he achieved the target his employers set him last season that should buy him some leeway to see if he can turn things around this season.

I can understand the point without agreeing with it personally.

I'm not sure where you get this from? The vast majority of people who are newly expressing the opinion that Agar should go were previously of the 'wait and see' camp and have been tipped over the edge by the visible lack of progress in addressing key issues over the closed season. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

It's also entirely possible that people may have been against Agar in private and have only just been moved to express that opinion in public.

I am talking about the ones who were slating him last season when losing but then praising him when we won.

Ah, right. Mind you, if a coach is to blame when we lose isn't it fair that he also gets credit when we win?

we never won the games that mattered though did we? Peter Sharp played 5 won 4 v leeds, including 2 at Headingley. Richard Agar played 8 lost 8 v Leeds. After getting stuffed at Headingley in the league we had them in the cup the following week. where was the game plan to neutralise what happened the week before? Lost last 2 games against Rovers, even after being 14-0 up, and then has the temerity to say I've studied the videos of rovers set moves etc, but when push came to shove, where was the defensive structure to combat there so called set moves etc? Absolutely nowhere is where. any decent rugby follower can assemble a side to theoretically challenge for the title, a good coach will create a team with attacking and defensives structures that can be easily be followed even when personnel are injured. show me where Richard Agar has achieved anything like that?

Never said we did, i have been against Agar for a long time so no need to try and convince me.

Like I said last season we had 3 must win games, Leeds cup, Leeds last game at home and Rovers in play-offs. We lost all 3. The season before we only had 1 must win game, Salford in the cup and we also lost to them.
To be fair to Agar though we have not lost a must win game yet this season

Precisely.

I have been on record for a while now that I do think we need a clean sweep within the club of coaches to bring a new mentality to the club. Getting the right man to head this is vital.

That said Agar did what he was asked last year and therefore deserves more than two games this year whether I like it or not.

Got to admit that is a good idea if fans want to make a public statement, doubt the FC shop will buy into it though don't you

I wear my shirt with pride. I don't get why someone one would back Agar but I don't keep bleating on about it.

I back Agar.

He's the coach of my club.

I will back him until he is no longer at the club.

I don't agree with some of his tactics... But I'll back him while he's in charge.