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| Quote: berro's best mate "i suppose its which leeds fans you read.........tis only opinions tho either way'"
beat me to it...
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| Quote: garry brindley "Not according to this they don't:
That tells us what exactly
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| Quote: Bal "Your boss is now responsible for all of your actions? Bizarre. Perhaps employers should be required to have you tagged and held in a cell between work related business?
I'm have my reservations about Agar, and I'm the first to pipe up when people say poor performance on the field is nothing to do with the coach, but to put any blame on him for Tansey behavior is just plain daft. Agar tried to manage him with the previous disaplinarys, now he has had to write him off and in doing so has sent a clear message to everybody else.'"
If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.
It was one thing when Agar was blaming the poor results in 2009 on the 'bad apples' at the club that weren't his signings. The 'bad apple' in this case is a player that Agar identified and brought to the club, now while he has done the right thing in getting rid of him, I don't think it will wash for him to then use Tansey's departure as an excuse later in the season as it was a problem that was partly of his own making.
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "played all his games at either fb or wing so far for wakey,but if he plays centre too,then that's even better.'"
He played at centre for part of last year, trust me I was there! Would be a good signing for any team and will be in superleague next year whether Wakey are or not.
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| Quote: berro's best mate "i honstly belive were the man city of superleague....well, as far as available salary cap goes anyways'"
More like Newcastle post Andy Carroll. All this money to spend and no-one available to spend it on .
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| Quote: garry brindley "If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.
It was one thing when Agar was blaming the poor results in 2009 on the 'bad apples' at the club that weren't his signings. The 'bad apple' in this case is a player that Agar identified and brought to the club, now while he has done the right thing in getting rid of him, I don't think it will wash for him to then use Tansey's departure as an excuse later in the season as it was a problem that was partly of his own making.'"
Okay - let's say you're right and it was his fault. What should his next step have been? Sack him or keep him? My guess is... it doesn't matter - he's wrong anyway!
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| Quote: berro's best mate "this will roll on for ages..no doubt, especially if were turd early in the season...'"
Fair one, even more so if our fullback has a nightmare on sunday..
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| Quote: garry brindley "If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.
It was one thing when Agar was blaming the poor results in 2009 on the 'bad apples' at the club that weren't his signings. The 'bad apple' in this case is a player that Agar identified and brought to the club, now while he has done the right thing in getting rid of him, I don't think it will wash for him to then use Tansey's departure as an excuse later in the season as it was a problem that was partly of his own making.'"
What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
Correct.
Some things are clearly Blacklock's fault.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
particularly this time. I mean, although he has been blamed for things unfairly before, this one is definitely down to Blacklock.
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| Quote: Kosh "Correct.
Some things are clearly Blacklock's fault.'"
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| the wheels are turning i expect news on new squad players by weekend (TBH I thought by last weekend )
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| Quote: Kosh "Correct.
Some things are clearly Blacklock's fault.'"
Wish we had Blacklock now
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| Quote: downtheante "Okay - let's say you're right and it was his fault. What should his next step have been? Sack him or keep him? My guess is... it doesn't matter - he's wrong anyway!'"
I didn't say it was Agar's fault I said he had to take some of the responsibility (it's clearly Tansey's fault far more than anyone elses).
Most signings are a gamble in one form or another and Agar took one when signing Tansey because of his reputation, it was probably a fair enough gamble to take but as it's turned out it hasn't paid off and he was quite rightly sacked.
All I've said is I sincerely hope that if and when results are going badly, Agar doesn't bring Tansey's departure up as an excuse as if it were something entirely out of his hands.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
I haven't half missed Berrigan's Fishwife
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