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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Dobson has undoubtedly been a success at Rovers, that is not the point at all. Cooke was a pivotal player in a top 2, CC-winning, GF side. Morgan chose not to optimise the contribution of Cooke because of his insistence on channelling everything through goldenbollox Dobson, thereby, in conjunction with Cooke's own issues, effectively ending Cooke's career. Morgan's failure to create a top partnership between a rising star and an experienced and creative top 2 HB should go down as a huge missed opportunity, surely?'"
No, theory and reality are two different things. In theory Cooke and Dobson was a dream pairing, but it didn't work in reality. In any case, Morgan cannot be blamed for Cooke's off-field problems, weight gain (alleged), been in Piper the night before a big away game, etc etc. Don't get me wrong I was a fan of Cooke at Rovers, and on paper he didn't get given enough chances under Morgan, but again, in reality there could have been so many factors that the majority of us will not know about.
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| Quote: Roofs "No, theory and reality are two different things. In theory Cooke and Dobson was a dream pairing, but it didn't work in reality. In any case, Morgan cannot be blamed for Cooke's off-field problems, weight gain (alleged), been in Piper the night before a big away game, etc etc. Don't get me wrong I was a fan of Cooke at Rovers, and on paper he didn't get given enough chances under Morgan, but again, in reality there could have been so many factors that the majority of us will not know about.
It didn't work in reality, correct, but the fact is that Cooke went from a pivotal player in a top 2 team to a no-mark bit-part player in a couple of seasons under Morgan. Cooke never helped himself at either Hull club, but playing under Morgan effectively ended Cooke's career.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "It didn't work in reality, correct, but the fact is that Cooke went from a pivotal player in a top 2 team to a no-mark bit-part player in a couple of seasons under Morgan. Cooke never helped himself at either Hull club, but playing under Morgan effectively ended Cooke's career.'"
Not really - Cooke looked world-class away to Salford and you guys in 2007, but he never followed it up. When he did play for Rovers he rarely produced that sort of class again. Surely Morgan can't take the blame for that?
Hey I thought you hated Cookie anyway?
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| Quote: Roofs "Not really - Cooke looked world-class away to Salford and you guys in 2007, but he never followed it up. When he did play for Rovers he rarely produced that sort of class again. Surely Morgan can't take the blame for that?
Hey I thought you hated Cookie anyway?
Hate is a strong word. As said, I was pi$$ed off mightily at the time, but am a lone voice on here now feeling a bit sorry for him and seeing his undoubted talent so comprehensively squandered.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Apart from the Murrell bit, obviously. International pivot and all that.
International hooker tho, not a 6
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| Quote: Roofs "Hmm, strange though how not only did his biggest fan (John Kear) give him little opportunity before showing him the door, but another big admirer (Shaun Mcrae) apparantly has no interest in signing him.
Not really. Cooke's career was irretrievably damaged whilst playing under Morgan at Rovers. Nothing wrong with his on-the-pitch delivery in a top 2 team at FC, it just all unravelled horribly in a couple of years at Craven Park.
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| Quote: Roofs "No, theory and reality are two different things. In theory Cooke and Dobson was a dream pairing, but it didn't work in reality. In any case, Morgan cannot be blamed for Cooke's off-field problems, weight gain (alleged), been in Piper the night before a big away game, etc etc. Don't get me wrong I was a fan of Cooke at Rovers, and on paper he didn't get given enough chances under Morgan, but again, in reality there could have been so many factors that the majority of us will not know about.
Cooke and Dobson a dream pairing!?!?!?!
It's good on paper, yes, but a dream pairing, no!
Thurston - Marshall
Prince - Carney
Cronk - Chase
Hodgkinson - Lockyer
Pearce - Tomkins
I would bracket as "dream" pairings. Unless your applying the Ol' theory of relativity. If so, fair enough, Dobson and Cooke in theory is V Good
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| Quote: Roofs "Oh ffs.
Haven't seen Briscoe improve personally. He left Hull a very good player and remains a very good player. He's no better now then he was in 05/06
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| Quote: Digby "Haven't seen Briscoe improve personally. He left Hull a very good player and remains a very good player. He's no better now then he was in 05/06'"
That's maybe a fair point, can't really comment I guess because obviously have only seen him play regularly from 2008-present.
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| Paul Cooke starts work on Monday for his dads company!
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| Quote: willowred "Paul Cooke starts work on Monday for his dads company!'"
Doing what?
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