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| Quote: Big Dave T "How many of his games at centre for FC have been on the left out of interest? '"
That's not an excuse for his defence.
Quote: Big Dave T "How many tries did he cost us last night?'"
I haven't seen the replay of their last try, but from what I saw live he appeared to turn his back on the man with the ball early in the move. Had he made the tackle, they might not have scored.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "He looks far more comfortable on the left rather than the right. If Yeamo is back next week i'd play him on the right and leave Hall to play on the left.'"
I agree,Craig needs to read the game better and not leave his line so exposed.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Er, he hasn't. That's my point. The best players have very few poor games, Hall does not.
His defence was very shaky - again - and he bombed a decent scoring opportunity because he was looking at the defender rather than the ball he should have been catching. At the moment, his negative aspects outweigh the positive ones.'"
His defence wasnt shaky at all....as for that pass.....looked to me as though he was trying to pass it in one movement...people just want to see what they want with Hall
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| Quote: Big Dave T "How many of his games at centre for FC have been on the left out of interest?
How many tries did he cost us last night?'"
I think the left centre thing is a bit of a red herring we have little evidence that he would be markedly better on the left. I would swap him with Yeaman to try though as you suggest.
As for last night he didn't cost us any tries. But surely you cant deny that his decision making is poor defensively? If the sliding defence has failed him he has no chance but there have been many occasions where he is in no man's land waving his arms about. He cost us against Rovers with a simple one on one take your man situation and some of the Wigan tries were his fault and his alone. I remember back at the Millenium stadium when we played Rovers - one of his first games - he did the same there. The point being that there has been little improvement since then.
I said a while back that he reminded me of Steve Evans. Not the best defensively but could score tries for fun. Steve Evans was an international however and Hall has a long way to go to reach that standard. A long long way.
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| Quote: fc baldy "His defence wasnt shaky at all....'"
We'll have to differ there. He shot the line a number of times when he didn't need to and was arguably at fault for their last try.
Quote: fc baldy "as for that pass.....looked to me as though he was trying to pass it in one movement...people just want to see what they want with Hall'"
Apparently so.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "That's not an excuse for his defence.
I haven't seen the replay of their last try, but from what I saw live he appeared to turn his back on the man with the ball early in the move. Had he made the tackle, they might not have scored.'"
He actually followed the man with the ball and got him...if anytthing...Briscoe had gone wandering again.
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| Quote: fc baldy "He actually followed the man with the ball and got him...if anytthing...Briscoe had gone wandering again.'"
After turning his back and letting him through the gap. Even if it happened as you say, he made a few poor decisions in defence that a better side would have punished.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "We won, did you know?'"
Erm yes still knew Hally would get the blame for something win lose or draw
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| Quote: PAUL M "And since when has Hall been labelled as the best? He is a young centre still learning the game and as a result sometimes does good things and sometimes does bad things.
He did nothing last night to warrant a thread about his poor performance.'"
exactly and its seems like almost every week theres a thread about him, or there appears to be and thats whats so annoying. He is young he is still learning, yet some people cant help but slate him week in week out,
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| Quote: HULLMAD "exactly and its seems like almost every week theres a thread about him, or there appears to be and thats whats so annoying. He is young he is still learning, yet some people cant help but slate him week in week out,'" This annoys me about the whole Hall thing, he's been first team for 4 years now.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "This annoys me about the whole Hall thing, he's been first team for 4 years now.'"
so what he is STILL LEARNING HIS TRADE, some of the so called expereinced players make cock ups and dont get half as much slating as Hally does.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "That's not an excuse for his defence.
I haven't seen the replay of their last try, but from what I saw live he appeared to turn his back on the man with the ball early in the move. Had he made the tackle, they might not have scored.'"
When did i use it as an excuse for his poor defensive reads?
I watched the game again today i dont think he was at fault.
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| Quote: HULLMAD "so what he is STILL LEARNING HIS TRADE, some of the so called expereinced players make cock ups and dont get half as much slating as Hally does.'" 4 years is more than enough time IMO. He's not improved enough defensively.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "I think the left centre thing is a bit of a red herring we have little evidence that he would be markedly better on the left. I would swap him with Yeaman to try though as you suggest.
As for last night he didn't cost us any tries. But surely you cant deny that his decision making is poor defensively? If the sliding defence has failed him he has no chance but there have been many occasions where he is in no man's land waving his arms about. He cost us against Rovers with a simple one on one take your man situation and some of the Wigan tries were his fault and his alone. I remember back at the Millenium stadium when we played Rovers - one of his first games - he did the same there. The point being that there has been little improvement since then.
I said a while back that he reminded me of Steve Evans. Not the best defensively but could score tries for fun. Steve Evans was an international however and Hall has a long way to go to reach that standard. A long long way.'"
There are 2 parts to defending for me.
1. Actually making the tackle. Hall appears to be more comfortable on the left hand side and looks more and more solid. Still makes some 'wafting arms' attempts but in general getting better.
2. Reading the play and making the right call. He is incredibly weak in this area and hasnt shown an improvement. He does need to stop going for the intercepts and stop ball watching too.
I believe that last year both aspects were weak and he's done a hell of a lot of work on point 1. Maybe now he will focus a little on the mental aspect of defence in point 2.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "4 years is more than enough time IMO. He's not improved enough defensively.'"
in your opinion, thats YOUR opinion, thats what forums are for OPINIONS and mine is he is young he is STILL LEARNING, and some people need to leave the poor kid alone, its every week seeing the same Hall thread.
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