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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Stats are a load of $hite...i prefer to go on what i see on the pitch....the other Briscoe is a full-back.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "I'm not, try the last 2 seasons stats!'"


Colbon is mediocrity personified and FYI one wigan fan said, when he left, and I quote ...."Never has someone SO average played so many games for wigan" Yes they rated him so highly ! icon_eek.gif

Who wouldn't want a winger with zero pace and zero significant qualities !! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: thehullwhitestar "Colbon is mediocrity personified'"


That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

Just for the Mrs B's of you out there lol
Quote: thehullwhitestar "Colbon is mediocrity personified'"


That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

Just for the Mrs B's of you out there lol


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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "I'm not sure exactly what you think those stats prove. Colbon makes more metres than Calderwood is about all.

Calderwood has made more tackles despite fewer appearances, and has scored only two tries fewer than Colbon despite fewer appearances and playing in a team that finished 12th in SL.

If you want to use stats to judge a player - which is a silly way of judging a player's overall ability anyway - these are far from clear cut.'"


Alot more meters and more tackle busts.

Its just that you read so much into how enthusiastic Calderwood is, yet according to the stats he hardly takes a ball in. Is it just that he threatens to look enthusiastic?
And yes, I know stats dont tell the full story.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Alot more meters and more tackle busts.

Its just that you read so much into how enthusiastic Calderwood is, yet according to the stats he hardly takes a ball in. Is it just that he threatens to look enthusiastic?
And yes, I know stats dont tell the full story.'"


No, they don't. So it's a little ridiculous to try to use them to prove one player is better than another. Calderwood is slightly built, hence he makes fewer metres. So, if you have a winger who you know isn't designed for getting good metres from a hit up, it would be a little bit silly to expect that winger to take a load of hit ups, wouldn't it?

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As Brian Mcdermott said on Boots n All last season.. "Stats are for geeks who dont play rugby, getting dirty and working hard for your team wether you miss a tackle or not is what a team needs, everyone makes mistakes and thats when your team ethic jumps in to have the will to cover that yardage to cover that mistake"
couldnt agree more....

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "No, they don't. So it's a little ridiculous to try to use them to prove one player is better than another. Calderwood is slightly built, hence he makes fewer metres. So, if you have a winger who you know isn't designed for getting good metres from a hit up, it would be a little bit silly to expect that winger to take a load of hit ups, wouldn't it?'"


spot on, but Calderwoods team ethic is exemplary

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "No, they don't. So it's a little ridiculous to try to use them to prove one player is better than another. Calderwood is slightly built, hence he makes fewer metres. So, if you have a winger who you know isn't designed for getting good metres from a hit up, it would be a little bit silly to expect that winger to take a load of hit ups, wouldn't it?'"


It would be, yes.

So apart from his kick chase game and a bit of pace of which I dont think he is as quick as he once was, what does he add to the team thats worth a new contract?

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "It would be, yes.

So apart from his kick chase game and a bit of pace of which I dont think he is as quick as he once was, what does he add to the team thats worth a new contract?'"


Go back through the 8 pages of this thread to find out. I'm bored with you now.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "It would be, yes.

So apart from his kick chase game and a bit of pace of which I dont think he is as quick as he once was, what does he add to the team thats worth a new contract?'"


No I think you are quite correct that he isnt as fast as he once was however he has not lost that much and his kick chase is still exemplary , and as shown in the quins game his will to work hard for the team is undoubtedly in the top three in the team!!
He has a few years left!!

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Go back through the 8 pages of this thread to find out. I'm bored with you now.'"


I have read enough on here to suggest that I dont see in him what alot of you guys supposedly do and I thought he was just as bad at Wigan.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "I have read enough on here to suggest that I dont see in him what alot of you guys supposedly do and I thought he was just as bad at Wigan.'"


We see him play far more than you do.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "We see him play far more than you do.'"


Maybe so but I see all your games on sky, all the highlights and 2 games a year. Its a fair few and enough to form an opinion.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Maybe so but I see all your games on sky, all the highlights and 2 games a year. Its a fair few and enough to form an opinion.'"


Which of course you are entitled to.

No-one is claiming that Calderwood is anywhere near his try scoring form of 2005. His move to Wigan was a poor one in retrospect.

He suffered with a lack of service last season but his effort and enthusiasm stood out amongst his team-mates. That is why he is held in high regard by Hull fans. Hopefully Longy when he is back on the pitch can get him amongst the tries.

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