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| Quote: east hull FC fan "So you wouldn't like sharia(sp) law used in some circumstances!'"
Not a law in this country as far as I know. |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "So you wouldn't like sharia(sp) law used in some circumstances!'" Use it as much as they like in a Muslim country. |
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| Quote: blakeysrobin "Not a law in this country as far as I know.'" Should it be recognised though? And used? |
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| Quote: DABHAND "Use it as much as they like in a Muslim country.'" I'm in no way saying it should be used, just curious I suppose. |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Should it be recognised though? And used?'"
Are you serious! no. |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Should it be recognised though? And used?'"
Can you imagine the chaos it would cause of having two separate laws in one country. |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "I'm in no way saying it should be used, just curious I suppose.'" Could we use Christian laws in a Muslim country,i think not. |
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| In my experience you respect and abide and respect the laws of the country you are in or have 2 choices...fall foul of the law or leave.....simples.
This from someone who managed to get banged up in Nigeria....not good.  |
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| Quote: blakeysrobin "I am not bothered about who comes in and works or lives as long as they contribute, appressed people aside.
My thoughts are these.
If I went to live and work in another country I would do the following, Learn to speak the language (night classes) abide by the rules and regulations of the land and regardless of my religion, not shove it down anyone elses throat .
Not difficult in this country surely.
Try Aussie, I have, they are strict!'"
Very fair point of view and one I share. |
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| Quote: B0NES "Can you imagine the chaos it would cause of having two separate laws in one country.'"
funnily enough we do, with the government allowing the muslims to set up a form of shariah court to apply shariah law in regards to divorce and inheritance. |
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| Quote: Staffs FC "We can expect it, and indeed hope that it happens. Unfortunately I think you over estimate the ability and education levels of many people at the poorer end of our society. You, I and most on here can see through the propaganda that you mention. That is not the case for everyone. It's the same reason that people brawl in the streets on a saturday night or mickey all over war memorials. That is a lack of personal responsibility as well and an inability to understand right and wrong. If your life is spent mostly in the gutter and you cant see a way out then you are an easy target for extremists be they BNP or anyone else. The number of people like this in society is rising and that is a direct result of this and previous Government's policies on welfare, education, immigration and law and order. If you carry on being liberal long enough this is what you end up with. Unfortunately.'"
Crikey - and I thought I was a grumpy old pessimist.  
There are a wealth of reasons why we have the problems in society that we have now. Not all of them are down to the actions (or inactions) of Government and none of them are the inevitable result of a liberal society. The growth of an ignorant and idle underclass is nothing new - it was a huge issue in Vctorian times for example, and that can hardly be classed as a liberal society. |
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| Quote: El Chupacabra "funnily enough we do, with the government allowing the muslims to set up a form of shariah court to apply shariah law in regards to divorce and inheritance.'"
You've obviously never heard of Beth Din then, it's only been operational in this country for the last 300 years or so |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I didnt say they got more, i said they shouldnt be getting anything. Let them sit in their own country and claim off the state.'"
The responsibility for basic subsistence remains with the home state rather than the host state. EU immigrants without jobs qualify for a small number of non-contributory benefits that have practically zero impact on the UK economy. It really isn't the issue that the tabloids would have you believe.
Quote: Big Dave T "I also said in the same statement that i would reduce the benefits of the UK layabouts to encourage them to take work too and not be better off by not wanting to work, did you miss that bit? ![]()
I'm also pro reform of the welfare system. However, I have yet to hear a scheme that doesn't also penalise those individuals who genuinely need support through no fault of their own. There is no simple solution that's fair and equitable to everyone.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "I agree with you totally that's what I have said. However the situation is worse now than ever thanks to the shockng state of main stream politics today. That is a failure of the the mainstream parties and not some improvement in the performance of the extremists.'"
That's the point I'm making though (as Kosh has touched on above). Things are not 'worse than ever' now, either in politics or society in general. There's a lot of negativity and scare-mongering goes on in publications like the Daily Mail who would have us believe that the simple act of stepping out of your front door leaves you at a 96% chance of being raped and killed by an illegal immigrant, but the fact is, whilst there are undoubtedly areas of the country that are not particularly safe, 'society' as a whole isn't much worse (if any worse) than it was 50, 100 or 150 years ago. |
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| Quote: cod'ead "You've obviously never heard of Beth Din then, it's only been operational in this country for the last 300 years or so'"
Yes, I have actually, but the difference being The shariah courts have wrongly been allowed to make judgements on domestic violence, which is a criminal offence, and therefore juristiction of the police, whereas as far as I'm aware, Beth Din doesn't |
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