For me, whitings biggest issues are that he isn't quick enough to stand put as a back or big enough to stand out as a forward. He's a very clever player and maybe he'll shine as he gets older and bigger and cements a place in the back row

I think that when you're an injured player at Hull FC your value amongst the supporters becomes far greater all of sudden.

I think Richard Whiting has become a superstar amongst some of how fans. All this talk about him been the best at this & that is very premature imo.

None of you have seen enough of him in the loose forward role to say he's better than Washbrook or in the stand off role to say he's better than Horne. We have on the other hand seen him at centre and I think we all know that centre isn't his position.

Whiting is a very good player to have in your squad because he can cover a lot of positions adequatly but as yet I don't think any of us know that he is ready to hold down a starting place in a certain position let along be the best option in that position.

I suppose if this season we have nothing to play for and Washy been injured it could be a chance to play in the loose forward position for a length of time and see how he goes.

Think if you've read these boards for many years Susie, then you would have seen that I certainly didn't have to wait until Richard incurred his injury to see that his talent was something that I, as a very old B&W spotted that his talent was needed by the club I love for as long as we could persuade him to stay with us. Unfortunately maybe its because he has such a great rugby league brain, which puts him at least two moves in front of the pacemakers, it also acts as a worry to some of our coaches now and in the past.
However, I'm sure that the people who truly do love and understand our game, will make sure that Rich plays for us for many a season. ...grannyfan Cindy

In the end we are crying out for a creative player yet some on here still only go on about Richards utility value.
Yes he may have good utility value but only if you have enough creativity already on the park.
This I’m afraid is our problem we don't have that luxury.
As I have said earlier we cant afford him at 13 this year as our pack just is not big enough but six should be nailed on (he came to the club as a six I believe) Berrigan needs help and he isn't getting it from anywhere else at the moment.
On a side note we have been using the same move all season where the full back gets the ball late as the ball goes wide, well on sat when Whiting was full back is one of the few times this move looked dangerous.

Surely you can see why he has played him there though?

Because he's clueless

They've shat on us for decades because they're willing to evolve and adopt the most successful model. And I'm not just talking about internationals either. They've gone much the same way at club level, with those who were sticking with older methods not having the success of the trailblazers and changing their style to suit. It's why the NRL is so even, with a constantly changing hegemony, with all clubs moving to models that are successful.

I'm not saying everything they do is the correct decision, but when all clubs and all representative sides move towards a particular model, one which consistently produces success, maybe it's something that is just a better system.



That's because we've moved in a very different direction. In an effort to make the game as quick and as 'entertaining' as possible, we've had, since at least the start of SL, a very quick PTB. That's meant that scooting, getting a 'roll-on' and either making breaks or catching teams offside has become the dominant tactic. That's negated the need for creativity at half, at all levels, and, as a result, we stop producing those types of player. Creativity at half hasn't really gone out of the game in Aus. Likewise throughout the backs. They've had to keep producing creativity as, with the strength of the defences (partly helped by the style of loose they use), they need creativity to score.

Or maybe they just produce better players than we do.

And I'd suggest a large part of that is down to the structure they're producing players for.

Think this requires a bump after today...

If i was Whiting i would be looking for a new deal elsewhere, what more does the kid need to do

Why he was dropped for today's game I'll never know.

In half an hour he showed more enthusiasm, intelligence, backing up and offloads than most of the other players over the 80 minutes. Nothing special but also deserves praise for kicking the 2 goals.

Said exactly the same thing, was one of our best players last week and i thought he was MOTM when he came on today but no doubt Agar will drop him again next week .

Reads the game sowell and would of been worse if he hadnt saved 2 tries.