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| Quote: PAUL M "How do you know it's the coach and not the players?
That's the point, none of us know. However the players have seen off two other coaches in recent years so that would suggest they do seem to be a problem.
The answer is both of them are to blame, but ignoring the players lazyness and blaming Agar for everything is unfair and not true.'"
So you acknowledge agar is to blame but you think we should keep him?
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| Agar is just as responsible for our situation as are the players (or some of them).
That said if Agar was good enough he would 'manage' these individuals and get the best out of them, particularly when he has the backing of the board which others didn't have. I refer to P. Sharp and the incident of wanting to sack one of our players but got undermined.
Get rid of the majority of OOC players with the exception of two or three, a couple of contracted players and remove Agar, Sharp and Last as well. Only then will we have an opportunity to re-build the coaching and playing staff - which is what is needed.
Mark my words if the same coaches are here next year we will have similar problems.
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| Quote: Wollagong Way "Agar is just as responsible for our situation as are the players (or some of them).
That said if Agar was good enough he would 'manage' these individuals and get the best out of them, particularly when he has the backing of the board which others didn't have. I refer to P. Sharp and the incident of wanting to sack one of our players but got undermined.
Get rid of the majority of OOC players with the exception of two or three, a couple of contracted players and remove Agar, Sharp and Last as well. Only then will we have an opportunity to re-build the coaching and playing staff - which is what is needed.
Mark my words if the same coaches are here next year we will have similar problems.'"
Often find that promoting from within isn't always the best answer, fresh blood needed from top to bottom.
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| Quote: Wollagong Way "Agar is just as responsible for our situation as are the players (or some of them).
That said if Agar was good enough he would 'manage' these individuals and get the best out of them, particularly when he has the backing of the board which others didn't have. I refer to P. Sharp and the incident of wanting to sack one of our players but got undermined.
Get rid of the majority of OOC players with the exception of two or three, a couple of contracted players and remove Agar, Sharp and Last as well. Only then will we have an opportunity to re-build the coaching and playing staff - which is what is needed.
Mark my words if the same coaches are here next year we will have similar problems.'"
And the crowds will be less than 8k
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| Quote: Stan Butler "Often find that promoting from within isn't always the best answer, fresh blood needed from top to bottom.'"
Familiarity breeds contempt
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "gary hetherington has more of a say financially than what people think.him and kath put their initial investment in for a reason-they knew they would get it back with extra bonuses.i think you will find when the next financial figures are released,they will have taken some,not all,of that half a million for themselves.but,really,who can blame them?they put their cash in when nobody else offered,and that meant that we have a club to 'support' today.maybe we ought to 'employ' gary to replace jimmy!'"
First highlighted point = absolute tosh
Second highlighted point - can you let me know how you will be able to tell this from the next set of financial figure which Hull release, as I am fooked if I know where you would find it on a set of abbreviated accounts. Also, come to think of it, a set of abbreviateds doesn't include Directors remuneration (Mrs H) and on the basis there is an accumulated loss and the company cannot pay dividends (to shareholders like Mr H), it would appear you are talking out of your anus
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "First highlighted point
But the directors are "using the club as a cash cow", MMJ.
2% over base rate on loans plus zero dividend = bugger all return on their investment IMO. An inconvenient truth
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "But the directors are "using the club as a cash cow", MMJ.
Depends if they're paying themselves inflated salaries to be fair
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Depends if they're paying themselves inflated salaries to be fair'"
If they were all paying themselves inflated salaries, how would we be turning in profits for 4 consecutive years which no other club bar Leeds has done?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "If they were all paying themselves inflated salaries, how would we be turning in profits for 4 consecutive years which no other club bar Leeds has done?'"
Impossible to say without seeing a detailed set of accounts. Maybe they're saving a packet on the coaching set up
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| Quote: The Brother "Don't need to give you any source but take it from me it's correct
So even if Crocker N Luakai had come this season we would still be running about 30000 under cap which simply isn't good enough for a club our our size'"
Are you for real? £30k under a £1.6m cap is 'a disgrace'?
Get a grip, man.
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| Quote: Kosh "Are you for real? £30k under a £1.6m cap is 'a disgrace'?
Think he's missed a zero out
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| Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
Not a chance Agar would step down back to assistant.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
Probably Gary Wilkinson,or Len Casey
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