couldnt care less what you or the others think, i have my own views and i have been watching FC 38 of my 46 years thanks for the concern though.

Whats any of that got to do with how utterly crap Thorman is at 7? He is beyond rubbish with the ball in hand and he has 1 good kicking game in 5. Its not really Hornes job to be creating loads of trys. Its his job to use his footwork to creat gaps and to back up breaks and put the odd kick in. He needs a top quality 7 to partner him, all this talk of Horne not creating much is a red herring.

but Horne isnt creative enough so they say

Have to say i agree, but he is a good player. he just dosn't have the instinct of a half back.

If you read the other post of the poster you quoted , He tends to think the same.

I personally think Richard Horne would be the best full back in the country if were ever brave enough to put him there. Not going to happen this season as Reardon will play there now i guess.

Not creative as a half back but his running game would suit full back far better. great catcher of ball and would be running at broken lines as opposed to fully set defence when he's at 6

I'd like to see 2 different half backs from whiting/lee/washbrook/berrigan instead of horne and thorman

I agree. FWIW I'd like to see Horne at FB next season with two new half backs.

We tried R.Horne at FB a few seasons ago and his game was pretty much the same as it is now but with a slow ball return.

For me he is an out and out 6. The main problem as i've raved on about time and time again is you can't expect players to create when their team mates don't give them options. With space to move Richard Horne is one of the most devastating Stand Offs in this country.

Once we stop playing with an acting half back, two distributers and 10 props we might get to see some effective plays.

In addition i believe if Horne had been playing full back he would now be regarded as the best ever hull number one in front of kemble, keegan, woods etc

if we'd signed top quality half backs in his career to go along with the top drawer 9's such as jackson, swain and berrigan we would have a trophy cabinet bulging at the seams. all the great sides have the spine of the team (1, 6, 7, 9 ) laden with top quality

withers, harris, deacon, lowes
wellens, martyn, long, cunningham
webb, maguire, burrows, diskin
hampson, edwards, gregory, mcdermott

I dint think we've stopped bitching over Thorman yet

Horne has never been creative, he often puts good kicks in and the odd through the gap pass but, he is a support player and a great runner of the ball hence why he scores a fair few tries, but on the topic of Thorman, hes not a leader or organiser but i think his kicking game is good and a kick is as good as its chase and in the last few games the chase hasnt been thier but personally if we really want to go far in this comp we need a top class SH simple as but geting one isnt that simple isit, also replacing G.Horne wouldnt go a miss.

When the team started making inroads into Rovers' half, then Throman was able to dictate as Dobson did early on. I don't remember seeing Dobson in the last 10-15 minutes because they were on the back foot.

We simply made too many mistakes. We started by giving a penalty away, dropped the ball in silly positions early in the tackle count and were slow at the process of playing the ball (I mean the part where the player rolls it back, not the whole trying to stand up with four blokes on your back part). I think we finally learnt in the second half that no-one was going to get pinged for lying on or for being off-side and played the ref far better.

If I was to take a plus out of the game it would be how fit we looked at the end of the game. If we can just stop dropping the bloody ball.... And I hope Hall gets another chance - I know he had a bit of a 'mare but he is helping us out in a position he's not natural in.

I would love to think that it could be us he is lining up for next season nz.sports.yahoo.com/nrl/news/art ... eing-storm It is believed the deal would only be for the remainder of this season, with a more permanent deal - possibly in England - to be sorted out over the coming weeks

I would love to think that it could be us he is lining up for next season nz.sports.yahoo.com/nrl/news/art ... eing-storm It is believed the deal would only be for the remainder of this season, with a more permanent deal - possibly in England - to be sorted out over the coming weeks