Surely has to be time to send Dwyer back to reserves and give Balmforth a shot. No way he can be worse.

Doesn't he always ?

Way off whats needed in terms of performance , I thought the forwards were poor , Kicking game was wallop and hope , just flat everywhere tonight .
And I'll drive Dwyer to Wire tomorrow .

Cannot believe how poor we were in that game

Started with our first pass of the game when Sutcliffe threw it 5 yards behind anybody else and we ended up 2 yards from our own line.

Some of the decisions players made were embarrassing and should make for a very interesting, and long, video review session.

2 very poor teams and a game which was a shocking advert for Super League

Litten, Lane, Satae, Dwyer, Lovodua were really poor tonight. Trueman and Cliff both good bits and then bad bits. As others have said, we are losing some of our 'better' players, with only Tindall and Ashworth on the horizon, and we are 9th...I'm actually a bit concerned.

Next week, we need to blood some youth and say to Dwyer, Joey that they will be in reserves unless we are down to bare bones. Staveley for Joey, Jebson for Lane, Balmforth for Dwyer.

McIntosh and Swift have been 2 of our best really, so can't really give Martin or Barron any gametime

Litten was probably the only full back in the league who couldnt stop that second try.

Last tackle plays are a bit of a joke it seems.

That was p. Iss poor. We looked lethargic most of the match. Looked like a pre season friendly. Not totally out of the play offs but almost. Would get knocked out first match so properly irrelevant. Very disappointed with that performance. Litten needs to up his game big time but to be fair most of them do

Sad thing is - Smithy said before halt time - the team that comes out and manages the 2nd half wins. Recently - we have done that.... Tonight... yeah could not manage a up in a brewery.

Hudds came out 2nd half and clearly wanted to win. Not sure we did. How bad is that?

Can't see what the fuss is about with Litten. If he is the future we are in trouble . Same with Cator offers nothing to the team. Like many threads that have been posted the pack has got to be the weakest we have ever had in Super League.

Absolutely , No cohesion within the team tonight . Passing , Kicking , Last play options were awful .

At least Watson's found a hat that fits .

Other than a blow out score I thought tonight’s performance had echos of the performances that have been dished up from July on wards for the past few seasons, which is a concern.

Let's not bag Litten too much. He's been very good in recent weeks, tonight not so much. That happens with young players.
There are plenty of senior players to get stuck into.

We don't seem to ever really use Litten on the shift plays - most teams use their full back to create the overlap but we don't - makes us a bit predictable with drop offs and coming back on the angle

And it's still worth remembering Litten isn't actually our 1st choice full back. Possibly not even 2nd choice considering Shaul has been preferred to him a couple of times this season snd maybe would have been again if he wasn't injured.