Those saying Holdsworth is the worst first choice half back we've had need to get a grip. Yeah, he was poor. And yeah, he's had a few poor games. But he's also been a stand out in many games. It's amazing how fickle our fans are. Earlier in the year we were saying we couldn't win without him, and now he's the worst ever?! Jesus! How many man if the matches did Seymour and Thorman get?

Do I think Holdsworth is good enough to get us into the top four? No, he's too inconsistent. But let's not be over the top.

Exactly what I was thinking! Some fans don't have a clue, they're just looking for a reason to p*ss and moan. It's not constructive or helpful. It's just ridiculous! Shaun McRae's side wasn't boring. And it has nothing to do with the way we're playing now regardless!

He has been standout in a handful of games, poor in others and missing in plenty more

And as for the comment about professional players should block out the fans, only the very best can completely ignore them. It's called support for a reason. Personally, we don't have a lot of "supporters". We have a lot of people that come and watch so they can moan. Last night must have felt like a home game to Saints. Clapping them after tries. And (embarrassingly) the home team were booed ON to the pitch! I can understand being booed off. You're frustrated at what you've seen. It wasn't good enough and you want the players to know that (I don't agree with clapping an awful performance, it gives the wrong feedback). But booing them ON to the pitch? Why did people bother coming/staying?!

Honestly, if I were a player, I don't think I'd want to play for this club. Why would the best players want to come to a club were its own fans verbally abuse you every time you make a mistake? I used to think our fans were the best and most supportive. Certainly we're in the early 2000s. Personally I think we're some of the worst.

Which probably pegs him up as the best halfback we've had since Cooke left!

It sounds to me as an outsider that last night was all about avoiding the 'higher risk' involved of another derby match in the play offs

I dont feel you have been so inconsistent,apart from a couple of cracking performances against warrington,and one against cats,rovers and leeds you have been crap all season. Iwould say thats pretty consistent !

What game were you watching last night? Watts was playing.

And Westerman was easily Hull's best player.

Can anyone tell me a club whose fans love to make someone a scapegoat like hull fans do. Craig hall, Chris thorman, Brett seymour, richard agar have all been made scapegoats at the club,and currently it seems a race between westerman and holdsworth. Do you "fans" know the object of fans is to support your players and not to get on their case all the time. Richard horne at one stage was thought to be washed up but until his injury had been hulls best player this season.
I know my posts never go down with you hull fans which is ok,but deep down on this subject some of you must know iam right !!

We are the same Des. Netherton, Caro and Latus spring to mind as candidates as our'scapegoats

All clubs have them, it's just more prevalent at underperfoming clubs.

The fans are righ to criticise players when they aren't performing.

Richard Horne WAS poor for several seasons after his neck injury and diabetes diagnosis, yes he has come back and surprised many by coming back in to form, but it doesn't disguise the fact he was being picked based on name and not form for several years.

Thorman & Seymour were never good enough to be the quality no7 we needed.


Westerman is an ok player but I find him inconsistent, and he isn't the player we needed to lift us out of the mire for such a big transfer fee (I blame the club and not the player himself for this however) Holdsworth has received praise for some of his displays this season, but again is inconsistent and was shocking at Wembley & last night.

the players are professionals and have to accept that praise and criticism in equal measure. I'm sure they all enjoyed us all singing for 80mins and chanting their names at the CC Semi-Final...and they have to accept they will get criticism on here, on the radio etc when they play badly.

Good post. If it wasn't for us lot paying through the teeth week in week out for the club we love that shower wouldn't get paid.

This is laughable, you can't just lock yourself in a dark room all week and only come out for games! Even in the games the players are hearing booing and obviously that is going to pressure them! It's not like they can keep away from media, especially when most of them have things like twitter! Players get questioned all the time about rumours so they're going to hear about things such as their fans calling for their coaches head!!

rovers

Must be the water in Hull. Both sets of fans swing from believing their coach and team are world beaters/the worst team on the planet based on a couple of wins or losses. Fact is both are mid table clubs with mediocre coaches and an average set of players