18500 would be just about right for us & Costello wouldn't be a problem imo . Someone has now put up "Hull fc to get there own stadium" facebook page now .

That's why children shouldn't be allowed internet access.

If we're gonna dream about getting a new stadium, let's go all out! How about have it as part of the Quay West extension? Slap bang in the middle of town. 4G pitch so they can have a market on it during the day and use it all year round. Shopping centre goes around it. Car park underneath. 7 days a week free advertising from shoppers able to look into the stadium. Best public transport access going. Bars everywhere. Potential sponsors on every corner.

Boom. Easy stuff! May cost a few (hundred!) million to build, but would generate that eventually!

I get the feeling that some of our following would prefer us to be perennial under achievers, so long as we played in a smaller stadium because of the mythical atmosphere.

As has been debated many times in the past, the myth about the Boulevards atmosphere is the thing of Chinese whispers. When the 3d was partially closed in 1985 (after the Bradford fire) which coincided with the form of the team dropping, the atmosphere for most games was flat. It had two large, open ends which were some distance from the pitch, this did nothing for the atmosphere at a all.

Another fact which has been manipulated over time is the "opposition teams least favourite away ground". It's true to say this was the case, but not due to the atmosphere, more to do with the shockingly poor facilities, run down appearance and the shower of spital which they would get covered in from some of life's less fortunates as they came through the tunnel.

With the exception of a couple of seasons when Brian Smith was here, in the last 25-30 years, let's face it, we hardly pulled up many trees in the league, so this "intimidating" venue was not that much of an advantage.

You'll have to blame Des Hasler for continuing this "myth". He claims the Boulevard had an atmosphere on game day like "nothing I'd ever experienced before. It was special". Kelvin Skerrett and Shaun Edwards are also in on the lie and claim it was their least favourite ground to play at because of the hostile atmosphere. I'm not sure why they, and several other Aussies go around spreading these lies, there must be something in it for them.

Whoever is behind all this, seems to have reprogrammed the brains of me and all my friends, because we all clearly remember the cracking atmosphere at the Boulevard too. I wouldn't even have known all my memories was false if it wasn't for you. Many thanks!

So, a former player compliments the fans that paid his wages. Hardly ground breaking evidence.

The Intimidation factor many players will talk about was vile abuse, being spat on in the tunnel and having coins chucked at them. Is that what you want to go back to? Not some thing to be proud of.

We have had this discussion in the passed. If you genuinely remember the Boulevard having this cracking atmosphere, fine, you keep remembering. The stark reality is as already stated, after the 3d was reduced in size, the noise was vastly diluted. With the exception of specific high profile games which were few and far between in the years for 1985-2002. For those on the wide open spaces of either end it was as if no noise was being made by what was left of the 3d. For those in the 3d standing areas, the length of one third of the pitch, I am sure they will have thought it was a wall of sound. It wasn't.

Please don't bother replying. It's predictable what you will put. But you keep remembering all those great days. The game after game of deafening, bouncing terraces, which in reality only happened perhaps 2or 3times a season at most. You appear not capable of rational recall.

Oh, and no problem

Dont tell him the truth, he wont like it

the problem is many remember the 79-85 seasons and that during that time we were successful (though underachieved in my opinion & Bunting wasn't as great a coach as some make out)
The fan base back then is actually quite different to now, there are a LOT more younger kids, families. No longer is the swearing and abuse of yesteryear allowed and I agree with that.

The sporadic singing is mood fed by what is going on on the pitch..the Wakey game was a classic example..for 30 odd minutes we were so uninspiring against a gash team, the worst atmosphere I'd experienced. There were a few in chav corner above us singing a bit but nothing at all from the South stand..those that are the so-called 'faithful', the old 3d if you will.
look at the St.helens gane a couple of seasons ago when we pulled off that comeback, the atmosphere built after we scored in the second half, it got more so with another try and another.
By the time of the last try the place was absolutely rocking when it looked like we could have had the shat kicked out of us.

We can sing all we like but that doesn't change what the players do though they could possibly feed off it, professionals invariably don't, you're too caught up in what you're supposed to be doing, you focus on your targets for that 10 minute period (well I hope we do stuff like that) so actually the crowd noise and singing is only really noticeable during stoppages in play.
Players will always say the fans lifted us, what else did you want them to say, we couldn't hear them because we were too focused on playing so it didn't impact us..yeah right.

So this atmosphere will occur no matter what stadium you're at if the play on the field inspires that, if the crowd wants it to be and because the mood of the terraces feeds off from the play the stadium itself is completely & utterly irelevant. A city centre stadium would be amazing but is never going to happen, not ever. too costly & too disruptive for starters.
We have the protection of having a stadium that has a controlled cost, if the council had had the balls to take the helm from the start instead of giving away any profit (in effect) to an outside organisation (typical labour council) then the whole set up with regard to costs for both sporting teams and ongoing use of the stadium could/should be vastly different to now.

That would be impressive for myself, as I was born in 87!

You don't need to swear to create a good atmosphere. I don't quite get the point here?


Eh? Who's given them that label?
And I'd disagree about what goes on the pitch is the main contributor to a good atmosphere. Bradford used to have one of the best teams going and one of the worst atmospheres of any club.
There was more singing during the Sharks days than there is now, and that really was some dreadful stuff.


Dramatic games do that. Not every game will be anywhere near as dramatic as that, nor should we expect it to be.


I completely disagree. The fact that you've said yourself the players possibly feed off it means you're not entirely convinced yourself.
There will be some more elite players that will be able to block out everything that goes on around them and put in consistent performances week after week. But inexperienced players and generally lower ability players will struggle. They will feed off the positive energy, lack motivation from the dull and quite games, and crumble from the negative vibes. For us, we have a lot of low ability and inexperience. The atmosphere is dull, and quickly becomes negative. I would not want to be a Hull player in front of this type of crowd.


Again, Odsal in the mid-noughties.


But had they failed, they'd have had all the risk.

If it had not have been for this "typical labour council" there would not have been a KC stadium in the first place but lets not facts get in the way of your ridiculous statements . i.e. Costello is outside the city boundary is another one.