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Quote: Chris28 "Any chance we could discuss the referee's performance in the match yesterday?'"


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Don't know what you mean by open season on me,Chris, perhaps you could explain that please?
Just for the record I was referring to his mannerisms and the 'pink tents' actually comes from one of the Carry On films.
In no way was I being derogatory towards any perceived sexuality of anyone.
What got my goat a little I must confess, was the way the self-appointed PC brigade automatically assumed I was.
Back on topic, I'm still struggling to think of a worse performance from a ref on Sunday.

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Should have been at our place three days before and saw hicks! Clueless completely! As for child's-yes he was completely garbage but for some of your supporters to claim he had a bearing on the outcome of the game is laughable -he made mistakes for both sides -if your players let that get to them and ours don't then that's just hard luck. The fact that 10 minutes into the game you Get into our half and were given a penalty and you chose to kick, and then did so again tells a lot about the mentality of your players for that game-im sure That wasnt lost on the giants players. How you can call offside from your seats I'm not sure and remember a player is only offside if he impedes or tackles the attacking player. hopefully a rest and better weather will result in less spilt ball-we coukd easily have been 18 points up at half time if not for poor handling-but seeing as its dilbert refereeing on Sunday you can always blame the ref for your loss.

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Not so much "discussed" as "disgusting".

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Quote: jools "Should have been at our place three days before and saw hicks! Clueless completely! As for child's-yes he was completely garbage but for some of your supporters to claim he had a bearing on the outcome of the game is laughable -he made mistakes for both sides -if your players let that get to them and ours don't then that's just hard luck. The fact that 10 minutes into the game you Get into our half and were given a penalty and you chose to kick, and then did so again tells a lot about the mentality of your players for that game-im sure That wasnt lost on the giants players. How you can call offside from your seats I'm not sure and remember a player is only offside if he impedes or tackles the attacking player. hopefully a rest and better weather will result in less spilt ball-we coukd easily have been 18 points up at half time if not for poor handling-but seeing as its dilbert refereeing on Sunday you can always blame the ref for your loss.'"


Seem to recall you did the same with penalties, hence it being 4 apiece.
It's easy to spot offside from your seat if the players are clearly in front of the ref and start moving before they should. The same goes for not standing square.
All of which your side did all the game but only one side was getting pulled up for it. Probably why the penalty count was 12-2 to Hudds until the last minute when he was gracious enough to give us 2 pointless penalties.
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Quote: jools "As for child's-yes he was completely garbage but for some of your supporters to claim he had a bearing on the outcome of the game is laughable -he made mistakes for both sides -if your players let that get to them and ours don't then that's just hard luck.'"

Nobody has suggested he made the difference between winning and losing, merely the nature and scale of the loss. And to suggest that a 12-4 penalty count with the last 2 of ours coming in the final 30 seconds of the game had an equivalent impact on both sides is frankly laughable.

Quote: jools "The fact that 10 minutes into the game you Get into our half and were given a penalty and you chose to kick, and then did so again tells a lot about the mentality of your players for that game-im sure That wasnt lost on the giants players.'"

You remember that it was 4 all at one point with BOTH teams having kicked two penalties, right?

Quote: jools "How you can call offside from your seats I'm not sure and remember a player is only offside if he impedes or tackles the attacking player.'"

This is just plain wrong. You're confusing offside with markers not square.

Quote: jools "hopefully a rest and better weather will result in less spilt ball-we coukd easily have been 18 points up at half time if not for poor handling-but seeing as its dilbert refereeing on Sunday you can always blame the ref for your loss.'"

Once again, NOBODY has blamed Child for the loss. Not one single person.

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Quote: Kosh "Nobody has suggested he made the difference between winning and losing, merely the nature and scale of the loss. And to suggest that a 12-4 penalty count with the last 2 of ours coming in the final 30 seconds of the game had an equivalent impact on both sides is frankly laughable.

You remember that it was 4 all at one point with BOTH teams having kicked two penalties, right?

This is just plain wrong. You're confusing offside with markers not square.

Once again, NOBODY has blamed Child for the loss. Not one single person.'"


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Quote: Kosh "Nobody has suggested he made the difference between winning and losing, merely the nature and scale of the loss. And to suggest that a 12-4 penalty count with the last 2 of ours coming in the final 30 seconds of the game had an equivalent impact on both sides is frankly laughable.

You remember that it was 4 all at one point with BOTH teams having kicked two penalties, right?

This is just plain wrong. You're confusing offside with markers not square.

Once again, NOBODY has blamed Child for the loss. Not one single person.'"



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On a serious note, during the game a few of us were discussing the Hudds tackling methods which got completely ignored by the ref. It's a hard game but some of what was going on out there was (in our opinion) leaving the players open to suffering serious injury.

This from a side that 2 years ago, when Hull were leading 22-0 at half time (I think) at the Galpharm, Nathan Brown went to see the ref complaining basically that 'Hull were playing too rough'. And that came from one of our players. It resulted in a penalyfest against us in the second half.

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Quote: Kosh "Nobody has suggested he made the difference between winning and losing, merely the nature and scale of the loss. And to suggest that a 12-4 penalty count with the last 2 of ours coming in the final 30 seconds of the game had an equivalent impact on both sides is frankly laughable.

You remember that it was 4 all at one point with BOTH teams having kicked two penalties, right?

This is just plain wrong. You're confusing offside with markers not square.

Once again, NOBODY has blamed Child for the loss. Not one single person.'"


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Quote: Kosh "Nobody has suggested he made the difference between winning and losing, merely the nature and scale of the loss. And to suggest that a 12-4 penalty count with the last 2 of ours coming in the final 30 seconds of the game had an equivalent impact on both sides is frankly laughable.

You remember that it was 4 all at one point with BOTH teams having kicked two penalties, right?

This is just plain wrong. You're confusing offside with markers not square.

Once again, NOBODY has blamed Child for the loss. Not one single person.'"


If your indiscipline cost you that is the players fault not child's. If you watch the way that the giants defend you will see that they all hold the line-it frustratws our supporters many of whom shout "meet em" because they don't break their line and there is no advantage by one guy stood a few cm in front of the ref
I do remember the score and I also remember we chose to run the ball on two occasions early in when we could have taken four easy points we went for goal later on in the game not after a few minutes.
No I'm not getting confused I know the difference and the rules-
As for the tackling techniques!! Remind me -how many of our lads are up before the beak this week? Or last??

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Quote: jools "If your indiscipline cost you that is the players fault not child's. If you watch the way that the giants defend you will see that they all hold the line-it frustratws our supporters many of whom shout "meet em" because they don't break their line and there is no advantage by one guy stood a few cm in front of the ref
I do remember the score and I also remember we chose to run the ball on two occasions early in when we could have taken four easy points we went for goal later on in the game not after a few minutes.
No I'm not getting confused I know the difference and the rules-
As for the tackling techniques!! Remind me -how many of our lads are up before the beak this week? Or last??'"


Your players were stood in front of the ref nearly all game yet we never recieved a penalty
Your wrestle was overstepping the mark on plenty of occasions, as too was the grapple tackle yet again we never recieved a penalty
Your marker defence split on so many occasions it was untrue

I wouldnt say Child cost us the game as you were without doubt the better side imo no complaints there, i just thought he made it easy for you with his constant penalasing of us, after all apart from the head high on sharp and obstruction on mauu for the 2 penalty goals which were correctly given, do you really believe you were foot perfect till 79mins and 30 seconds when we got our 1st penalties in the game??

He kept us on the back foot and ensured we could never win the game by taking too much out of the tank in defence, seymour knock on facing his own sticks another massive error, your knock on which led to your second try he waves back to 6 i could go on for ages, im not normally a ref basher but this guy makes my blood boild and spoilt the game from start to finish for a 3000+ following that had come to watch our team not the man in the middle

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