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| Are all fc fans like the judge.?
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| Quote: hyperdriver "What City fans think. Cut and pasted from a forumSo just how much does Hull FC owe the SMC ?
Take the ******* to court for breach of contract and recover all outstanding depts including all fee's plus compound interest.
If they don't pay throw 'em out of the ground.The pitch is already deteriorating.Don't believe the bull about rugby not spoiling the pitch.Ask Steve Bruce.[/i'"
And that sums up pretty well all you need to know about a proportion of city fans.
Its obvious when you think about it, what with Rugby action being ed on the goalmouth and sport etc.
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| If the Twitter trails are anything to go buy we should all be buying Fezes. Is that the plural of Fez?
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| If Allam has accepted that he is extremely unlikely to get ownership of the stadium then perhaps he's also realised that owning the SMC has no benefit for him. In fact it's become a drain on his funds. The deal and losses would have been ok had it led to getting the KC but not without that prize. If they get promoted maybe the SMC costs will increase? I would guess that the contract for the SMC to run the KC will have some sort of term or would be very onerous on the SMC if they wanted to walk away. The Council won't want to take it back and bear current losses and future costs , it's probably unlikley that anybody else would want to buy into the SMC and allowing it to go bust would hardly be an option. Maybe he feels the best way out is creating enough bad feeling to be asked to leave , be sacked or goad the Council into breaching the contract in some way??
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| Quote: looking in "Are all fc fans like the judge.?'"
I have a season pass for both FC and City because I like my sport. I am an FC fan first though and a neutral at the soccer
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| Quote: Pony685 "Quote: Pony685 "Not only are you illiterate, judging by your poorly constructed posts, but you appear to lack any form of reading skills.
The SMC get a rental income. Most of which is fixed from two tenants. If they set that rent under the running costs then that's poor management on their part. Now,
considering the rent agreements have been revised since the original agreements, and that the Allams took on theses (or were involved in revising them) it would appear they are not quite as business savvy as some would like to make out.
Also, if they have lost rental income, why not utilize the stadium with other events (concerts etc)
But I doubt your bright enough to think that laterally'"
What's with all the anger and abuse?
Maybe you should seek help.
No anger or abuse, merely a forthright and well observed opinion.
Perhaps you should seek some facts, common sense and judgement.
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| It looks to me as if this whole thing has been staged managed by the Allams to flush out into the open the deal we have with the SMC and to lay it bear for public scrutiny. It also appears by what the Mail is saying that there are some surprises to come and they aint gonna be nice ones.
The fans and the media have been almost pleading with the Club to come out and comment and while they don't the general public only have what Mr Allam has to say to go on. They cant claim that its to do with confidentiality any more because the Mail has obviously received the full agreement from the Allams. It looks like tomorrow will be a real eye opener as a dispute about a few pictures and the degrading and humiliation of a local hero is developing into a full blown crisis and I mean crisis. The Club have to comment if these trails from the Mail come to fruition, if they don't the public will believe what they read and it doesn't sound like it will be anything but humiliating for us lot. Here we go agaian folks!!
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| What is worrying is that all of the sports clubs in Hull are struggling financial with losses. The future isn't looking great! The majority of businessmen are driven by making money and will bail if things aren't going right. Allam is a complete tool and wants the stadium for peanuts and AP is looking to get involved back into Football.
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "It looks to me as if this whole thing has been staged managed by the Allams to flush out into the open the deal we have with the SMC and to lay it bear for public scrutiny. It also appears by what the Mail is saying that there are some surprises to come and they aint gonna be nice ones.
The fans and the media have been almost pleading with the Club to come out and comment and while they don't the general public only have what Mr Allam has to say to go on. They cant claim that its to do with confidentiality any more because the Mail has obviously received the full agreement from the Allams. It looks like tomorrow will be a real eye opener as a dispute about a few pictures and the degrading and humiliation of a local hero is developing into a full blown crisis and I mean crisis. The Club have to comment if these trails from the Mail come to fruition, if they don't the public will believe what they read and it doesn't sound like it will be anything but humiliating for us lot. Here we go agaian folks!!'"
Blooming heck, I've put loads of time and energy into indignant/outraged defence of the club.
If the SMC are putting all the details out there, the club need to man up and put out a statement. Still inconsistent with previous accounts which show a direct profit on FC activities of £400k, but if the club offer no clarification or back up, we've choice but to take the reports at face value.
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| Anyone slightly worried about HDM tweet regarding SMC covering hull FCs costs?
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| Quote: FaithfulCott "Anyone slightly worried about HDM tweet regarding SMC covering hull FCs costs?'"
You are RLfans Correspondent and I claim my £5.
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "The fans and the media have been almost pleading with the Club to come out and comment and while they don't the general public only have what Mr Allam has to say to go on. They cant claim that its to do with confidentiality any more because the Mail has obviously received the full agreement from the Allams.'"
Have they? All I'm seeing is the Mail printing one Allam propaganda piece after another. What permission is required for that?
In any case, one party breaching an agreement (if they have) doesn't amount to permission for other parties to do the same.
If the details of the confidentiality clause that have been stated on here are correct then there seems to be little the club can say without being in breach of contract.
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| I honestly believe we've played into allams hand's.. But not giving up, he need's putting in his place
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| As I see it , the allams are bleating poverty as they are losing cash but getting nothing in return for their spend.
They don't like that , not one bit. As for suing the Council - poppycock. The HDM article is just the allams trying to build up a case for scaring the Council and Hull FC.
My advice - Call their Bluff
Wait for their legal action , just wait. It won't come. FC are in a watertight agreement on rent and costs etc so have to do nothing. Don't comment. Let them play theirselves out and hang themselves dry.
It's like buying a caravan park in With and finding later that the caravan owners have an agreement to never pay more than they pay now for the next 20 years but the costs of running it go through the roof. Silly purchase that they can't get out of via closing the business though !
They need more revenue , from the Council and FC , and neither have to provide more to them . So the SMC may continue to lose cash and the allams don't like that either. The allams seemed to have bought the SMC in a rush and have now been found out. They would then normally liquidate that loss making company.
I was told about 10 years ago , after FC played the Bulls for the first time at KC , att approx 23,000 , that the SMC made an after tax and costs, profit of £38,000 for that 1 game !
These guys don't give money away they LEND or SECURE it on property.
Bill Gates / Warren Buffet - now these guys are generous !
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