FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Hull FC > Quarters
115 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30242
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32641_1503834456.jpg
The poor man's bonaire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32641.jpg



Quote: Armavinit "Maybe not making my point clear Jakester. IMO opinion the cup was and is the holy grail. Wigan won it god knows how many times on the trot but they still enjoy the day/weekend out as would anybody. I missed one final of the modrrn era, 50's onwards, every defeat hurt like hell but every victory was savoured, last year more than ever. It meant more because of all the people I knew who never got to see it and every other win at Wembley, will produce the same sentiments. I cry unashamebly every time I hear "Abide with me". You can't recreate that at Manchester at a contrived premiership final.'"


Each to their won but the measure of the best team in the comp is the GF winner and that's the next big target for this club IMO

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73680_1515668157.jpg
[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg



Quote: Jake the Peg "Each to their won but the measure of the best team in the comp is the GF winner and that's the next big target for this club IMO'"


Totally agree.

If you asked me this time last year, I'd have said the same as Armavinit for the same sentimental reasons - the multiple failed attempts to win at Wembley. Now we've finally put that to bed, the priority has to be to become Champions.

It's the hardest comp to win. You have to firstly ensure that early season form is good enough to get in the 8 after the 23round cut-off, then you have to battle it out in 7 more games against the best sides to make sure you get the top4, then a semi-final and grand final. There's an added bonus of being able to compete to become World Club Champions.

I disagree with Armavinit that the GF is a contrived concept, it's Rugby League's traditional way of crowning a champion, baring a few intermittent seasons, dating back to what 1900(?). Maybe it's mainly those introduced to RL during those seasons where top spot meant the champion who feel this way, or maybe they look at what they do in Football?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2152
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020May 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: DGM "Totally agree.

If you asked me this time last year, I'd have said the same as Armavinit for the same sentimental reasons - the multiple failed attempts to win at Wembley. Now we've finally put that to bed, the priority has to be to become Champions.

It's the hardest comp to win. You have to firstly ensure that early season form is good enough to get in the 8 after the 23round cut-off, then you have to battle it out in 7 more games against the best sides to make sure you get the top4, then a semi-final and grand final. There's an added bonus of being able to compete to become World Club Champions.

I disagree with Armavinit that the GF is a contrived concept, it's Rugby League's traditional way of crowning a champion, baring a few intermittent seasons, dating back to what 1900(?). Maybe it's mainly those introduced to RL during those seasons where top spot meant the champion who feel this way, or maybe they look at what they do in Football?'"

Yeh and look how exciting the end to the premier league season was!!!! Boring

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73680_1515668157.jpg
[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg



Quote: Tinkerman23 "Yeh and look how exciting the end to the premier league season was!!!! Boring'"


Yeh, exactly. I just wasn't sure whether the system they use in football was something some people were more use to, hence the apathy towards the playoff/GF.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2152
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020May 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: DGM "Yeh, exactly. I just wasn't sure whether the system they use in football was something some people were more use to, hence the apathy towards the playoff/GF.'"

Its very rare the best team in the comp dont win the grand final, imo

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11599
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16831.gif
:16831.gif



Maybe us fans may not be too bothered about going back to Wembley but tell that to the players, coaches and Pearson! If it helps bring in more revenue I'm all for another trip down to Wembley (plus no excuse from the rfl if we win it again and qualify for the GF and a aussie game)

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73680_1515668157.jpg
[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg



Quote: number 6 "Maybe us fans may not be too bothered about going back to Wembley but tell that to the players, coaches and Pearson! If it helps bring in more revenue I'm all for another trip down to Wembley (plus no excuse from the rfl if we win it again and qualify for the GF and a aussie game)'"


I don't think anyone's said they aren't bothered about getting to Wembley, just that in their opinion they think the GF should be the main focus.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11599
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16831.gif
:16831.gif



A good team will target all comps

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73680_1515668157.jpg
[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg



Quote: number 6 "A good team will target all comps'"


Again, I'm not sure anyone has said they shouldn't try to win both comps.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11599
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16831.gif
:16831.gif



No but posters are saying the club should prioritise the grand final so in a way they are saying forget the CC

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73680_1515668157.jpg
[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg



Quote: number 6 "No but posters are saying the club should prioritise the grand final so in a way they are saying forget the CC'"


I don't think they are.

I said the GF should IMO be their priority (as I feel it's more prestigious), not that it should be only focus. It's not a case of one vs the other. If I have a list of stuff to get done, I don't just do the top one and sack off the rest of the list.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7358
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45295_1698513085.jpg
once a black and white always a black and white COYH:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45295.jpg



Pearson once said that Wembley final brings in more money than the grand final. Isn't it great at the moment we can talk about finals and be genuine contenders

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member25662No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Id be happy to win either, don't think we are at the level yet, where a cup win of any kind is looked down upon.

RankPostsTeam
International Star277
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67090_1515062122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67090.jpg



If we won silverware this season and I had to choose between which one then the GF would be my preference. It would also be great to see a team win at OT other than leeds/Wigan/saints/Bradford

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach865
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2018Dec 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Jake the Peg "leeds will be in the semi of the cup having played 2 lower league teams so I'm not sure how that can be the premier competition. If we'd won half the finals we'd played in I reckon the cup would hold much less prestige to us than the GF'"


You do the whinos a disservice, they will have beaten 3 lower league teams to reach the semis thanks to being poor last year and having to start off early with trash like the dobbins this year. Your point is valid though, should the whinos win the cup this year it would be on the back of 2 hard games so not exactly a marathon effort. There are times though when the winner has truly earned the trophy and Hull's last 2 wins in it are shining examples of that.

Having said that, one thing that the Grand Final isn't necessarily a measure of who is the best team throughout that season, merely who is playing best at the end of the year with the whino wins from 5th spot in 2011 & 2012 proving that.

However its important to remember that if its a jammy or less impressive way the cup was won, that eventually gets forgotten but the winners name stays forever.

As for Hull I'd be happy with either, though both would be nicer. I can now go to Wembley in a far more relaxed mood now that monkey has gone and enjoy the day whatever. If I was pushed on which I'd prefer then now the CC at Wembley has been done then then it would have to be the Grand Final as it would complete the trophy set for the club.

115 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen
115 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.87890625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
1m
Shopping list for 2025
mwindass
5299
15m
Squad 2024
Brew
734
17m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3301
17m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
tigertot
10065
18m
Former players
Jemmo
1309
18m
Leigh it is
Cruncher
51
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2397
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
4025
Recent
Proposed rule changes 2025
finglas
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
35s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62558
40s
Leigh it is
Cruncher
51
42s
Fev H Play Off
Wigan Bull
13
56s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
tigertot
10065
58s
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40168
2m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Neruda
151
2m
Proposed rule changes 2025
finglas
5
2m
Ground Improvements
imwakefieldt
93
2m
Squad 2024
Brew
734
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
MorePlaymake
5
TODAY
Guest appearance
Kick and cha
1
TODAY
Squad for HKR
Or thane
13
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
finglas
5
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Wigan Bull
13
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Kevin Turvey
10
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
WalterWizard
7
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
Butcher
7
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
Chris71
38
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
karetaker
59
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
TODAY
Leigh it is
Cruncher
51
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
Cokey
2
TODAY
Must do better
Wires71
29
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Saints Hearts With Golden Point Win
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
617
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
654
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1113
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1361
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1114
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1527
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1240
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1474
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1614
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1885
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1580
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1654
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1839
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1660
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2099
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.63M +21,681 80,12914,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TOMORROW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R29
20:00
Hull KR
v
Warrington
 Sat 5th Oct
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R29
17:30
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sun 6th Oct
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Widnes
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 4th Oct
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Warrington
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan-Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 28 761 341 420 42
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 27 655 469 186 30
Widnes 26 551 475 76 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
1m
Shopping list for 2025
mwindass
5299
15m
Squad 2024
Brew
734
17m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3301
17m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
tigertot
10065
18m
Former players
Jemmo
1309
18m
Leigh it is
Cruncher
51
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2397
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
4025
Recent
Proposed rule changes 2025
finglas
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
35s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62558
40s
Leigh it is
Cruncher
51
42s
Fev H Play Off
Wigan Bull
13
56s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
tigertot
10065
58s
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40168
2m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Neruda
151
2m
Proposed rule changes 2025
finglas
5
2m
Ground Improvements
imwakefieldt
93
2m
Squad 2024
Brew
734
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
MorePlaymake
5
TODAY
Guest appearance
Kick and cha
1
TODAY
Squad for HKR
Or thane
13
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
finglas
5
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Wigan Bull
13
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Kevin Turvey
10
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
WalterWizard
7
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
Butcher
7
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
Chris71
38
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
karetaker
59
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
TODAY
Leigh it is
Cruncher
51
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
Cokey
2
TODAY
Must do better
Wires71
29
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Saints Hearts With Golden Point Win
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
617
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
654
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1113
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1361
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1114
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1527
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1240
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1474
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1614
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1885
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1580
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1654
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1839
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1660
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2099


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!