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Quote: Kosh "I prefer the 'knows how to put his winger away' style personally. Not to mention the 'can score from long distance' style.'"

I know what you mean however Briscoe has done ok from the service of yeaman hasnt he , even so far this season and i am sure his inclusion in the England squad ongoing is testiment to his abilities however Turner is clearly a totally different style of centre I agree

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Yes terrible service, this is Briscoe's record
Season P Try Pts
2008 17 6 24
2009 13 8 32
2010 27 16 64
2011 31 21 84
2012 11 8 32
Total: 99 59 236

One try every two games, not bad to say Yemo doesn't pass.

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Quote: Ellam "Yes terrible service, this is Briscoe's record
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2009 13 8 32
2010 27 16 64
2011 31 21 84
2012 11 8 32
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The stats aren't very helpful here though, as they don't tell you how the tries were scored. A better indicator might be Yeaman's try assist numbers if they're available.

And it's not that Yeaman doesn't pass at all, it's just that he misses opportunities that you'd expect a centre to take.

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Quote: voodooroo "I know what you mean however Briscoe has done ok from the service of yeaman hasnt he , even so far this season and i am sure his inclusion in the England squad ongoing is testiment to his abilities however Turner is clearly a totally different style of centre I agree'"

Briscoe has benefited more from Manu being on his side of the pitch IMO.

Yeaman is not an international standard centre. His inclusion in the squad says more about the quality of available English centres than it does about him. He's generally solid in defence and can score some good tries, but he lacks the all-round game IMO.

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Quote: Kosh "The stats aren't very helpful here though, as they don't tell you how the tries were scored. A better indicator might be Yeaman's try assist numbers if they're available.

And it's not that Yeaman doesn't pass at all, it's just that he misses opportunities that you'd expect a centre to take.'"

The stats are difficult as Yeamo often backs himself and credit to him he know how to find the line,

2011 Yeamo (7 try assists)

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012


2012 Turner (1 try assist)

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012
Quote: Kosh "The stats aren't very helpful here though, as they don't tell you how the tries were scored. A better indicator might be Yeaman's try assist numbers if they're available.

And it's not that Yeaman doesn't pass at all, it's just that he misses opportunities that you'd expect a centre to take.'"

The stats are difficult as Yeamo often backs himself and credit to him he know how to find the line,

2011 Yeamo (7 try assists)

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012


2012 Turner (1 try assist)

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012


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Quote: Kosh "Briscoe has benefited more from Manu being on his side of the pitch IMO.

Yeaman is not an international standard centre. His inclusion in the squad says more about the quality of available English centres than it does about him. He's generally solid in defence and can score some good tries, but he lacks the all-round game IMO.'"

I agree with you he is not an all round centre however there are few Lyons around in either SL or NRL but Yeaman is solid in both directions and not usually prone to brain farts hence why he and Briscoe are generally thought of as THE wing centre partnership in SL & internationally for England but like you say its all about opinion
i like the guy and would rather have him then be against him

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Quote: Kosh "Briscoe has benefited more from Manu being on his side of the pitch IMO.

Yeaman is not an international standard centre. His inclusion in the squad says more about the quality of available English centres than it does about him. He's generally solid in defence and can score some good tries, but he lacks the all-round game IMO.'"


Agree 100%.

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Quote: voodooroo " he and Briscoe are generally thought of as THE wing centre partnership in SL & internationally for England '"


They are? By whom?

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Quote: voodooroo "not you clearly
Or anyone else, I would imagine. They're a decent partnership (though arguably not as good as Turner/Briscoe would be), but to say they're 'THE centre/wing partnership in SL and internationally' is just crazy.

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I'd say that Carmont/Richards might have something to say about Yeaman/Briscoe being THE centre/wing partnership in SL. A lot of the time Yeaman and Briscoe are just 2 good players who play in the same area of the pitch, IMO, and that's not always down to Yeaman, either.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "The stats are difficult as Yeamo often backs himself and credit to him he know how to find the line,'"

Yup. And also the 'Try Assist' stat is one of the less useful ones as AFAIK it only counts the final pass/kick and not anything in the build-up.

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Quote: Kosh "Yup. And also the 'Try Assist' stat is one of the less useful ones as AFAIK it only counts the final pass/kick and not anything in the build-up.'"


I think an interesting stat was that Yeaman scored more tries than Briscoe in less games last year, which is perhaps indicative of him being a better finisher than provider (or more inclined to finish than provide).

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Quote: Kosh "Yup. And also the 'Try Assist' stat is one of the less useful ones as AFAIK it only counts the final pass/kick and not anything in the build-up.'"

Exactly.. I also think Turner gives Briscoe more service, it does not always mean a try but Tom has made some good ground on a few occasions, I also think Sharpe would benefit from Yeamo on his side as he is pretty much solid in defense.

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Quote: carl_spackler "I think an interesting stat was that Yeaman scored more tries than Briscoe in less games last year, which is perhaps indicative of him being a better finisher than provider (or more inclined to finish than provide).'"

I think Yeaman is definitely a better finisher than a provider. In fact he's a very good finisher from short range - runs good lines and is difficult to stop. It's one of the reasons I don't think he's a good pairing with Briscoe as he's also a top-notch finisher and only one of them can be on the end of a move. We might get more 'value' from splitting them up.

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