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| Quote: Rock God X "Quote: Rock God X "It's obvious why he risked martin and radders, our side was too inexperienced anyway. I don't see what more gentle could have done.'"
I'd tend to agree. We had loads out, and some of those who played weren't fit. Contrast that with Wigan who were at full strength and had rested players the week before. One of those things, and certainly not due to a failing on Gentle's part IMO.'"
Have to agree and say it can't be classed as a failing at all. Admittedly its not great to have to put players out there that are not 100% but its no good putting young lads into a team just for the sake of it especially with so many inexperienced players already in the 17.
Yesterday needed a little more experience out there but unfortunately we simply didn't have enough which comes back to the under investment in the youth set up that Pearson spoke about and the fact as fans we have all criticised the previous Coach for not giving some of the youth a chance.
No matter what we did yesterday was always going to be a hammering as the players have simply giving everything and more in what have been very tough fixtures. The weekend break will help to recharge the batteries and hopefully get some much needed players back for the fixture with Leeds.
Think to say it was a failing on Gentles part in harsh
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| I think people are being a bit disrespectful to Wigan who looked the real deal yesterday it was men against boys literally. We had nine players out and a couple carrying knocks even with them back in the side we would have struggled.
PS Please sign Finch use manu and Hornes wages just sign him.
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| Quote: major black "I think people are being a bit disrespectful to Wigan who looked the real deal yesterday it was men against boys literally. We had nine players out and a couple carrying knocks even with them back in the side we would have struggled.
PS Please sign Finch use manu and Hornes wages just sign him.'"
nail on the head that......
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| Quote: major black "I think people are being a bit disrespectful to Wigan who looked the real deal yesterday it was men against boys literally. We had nine players out and a couple carrying knocks even with them back in the side we would have struggled.
PS Please sign Finch use manu and Hornes wages just sign him.'"
Aye. Wigan certainly had the smell of blood right from the kick off and that first set of 6 set the tone for the game.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Have to agree and say it can't be classed as a failing at all. Admittedly its not great to have to put players out there that are not 100% but its no good putting young lads into a team just for the sake of it especially with so many inexperienced players already in the 17.
Yesterday needed a little more experience out there but unfortunately we simply didn't have enough which comes back to the under investment in the youth set up that Pearson spoke about and the fact as fans we have all criticised the previous Coach for not giving some of the youth a chance.
No matter what we did yesterday was always going to be a hammering as the players have simply giving everything and more in what have been very tough fixtures. The weekend break will help to recharge the batteries and hopefully get some much needed players back for the fixture with Leeds.
Think to say it was a failing on Gentles part in harsh'"
Use which ever word you think suits as I said I an not knocking the guy but we have just conceded a record number of points at home. Mitigating circumstances yes as I alluded to but it was still a very poor effort. Coach has to take some share of blame.
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| Quote: major black "I think people are being a bit disrespectful to Wigan who looked the real deal yesterday it was men against boys literally. We had nine players out and a couple carrying knocks even with them back in the side we would have struggled.
PS Please sign Finch use manu and Hornes wages just sign him.'"
Agree with the 1st bit! Wigan best team iv'e seen this year! 1st set was as good as u get! Wade n manu wage would more than cover finch! Would truly love him here,so smart and always barking! Horne could go fullback n then provide good cover at 6!
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Agree with the 1st bit! Wigan best team iv'e seen this year! 1st set was as good as u get! Wade n manu wage would more than cover finch! Would truly love him here,so smart and always barking! Horne could go fullback n then provide good cover at 6!'"
Finch wants to stay and Wigan want to keep him. Not gonna happen.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Finch wants to stay and Wigan want to keep him. Not gonna happen.'"
He's not signed out yet and you don't know until you try. Money talks apparently.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Quote: knocker norton "I think people are being a bit disrespectful to Wigan who looked the real deal yesterday it was men against boys literally. We had nine players out and a couple carrying knocks even with them back in the side we would have struggled.
PS Please sign Finch use manu and Hornes wages just sign him.'"
Aye. Wigan certainly had the smell of blood right from the kick off and that first set of 6 set the tone for the game.'"
Wigan came out knowing that they were up against a very weakened side and went for the jugular from the off and it paid off for them.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Wigan came out knowing that they were up against a very weakened side and went for the jugular from the off and it paid off for them.'"
true, but if you know your in for a spanking, you dont go out with your belt undone and your pants allready down! rolled over way to easy for me no matter what side we had out.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Finch wants to stay and Wigan want to keep him. Not gonna happen.'"
expect him to stay there to be honest! They cant afford to lose him n tommy L in same season. Heard we've signed someone from Salford. If it isnt Broughton i wouldnt mind it being Holdsworth!
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| Quote: fcimp "It's obvious why he risked martin and radders, our side was too inexperienced anyway. I don't see what more gentle could have done.'"
Totally agree...
The measure of the man will be how we respond once he has the majority of his players back and the playing field is more level.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Yesterday was his first real failing imo. Yes we never had a chance of winning the game but to lose by that score is unacceptable. We looked beat before we went out and the whole side looked devoid of energy. Of course injuries were the major factor and he is also paying the price for our lack of youth development in recent years but it was still a very poor performance and I also think he made a mistake picking Martin who clearly wasn't fit. Whiting should have played centre and Green brought into the 17.
I am not being anit-Gentle btw I think he's doing a fantastic job but in the interests of balance we shouldn't ignore bad performances when they come along. He'll ultimately get it right and I have complete faith in him but yesterday was a bad day.'"
to be fair he wasnt happy with yesterday still inspite of the squad we had out there. Plus as good as wigan were they couldnt have got a better bounce of the ball(2 tries from rebounds) n ref dint help us at all-especially tomkins winning pen pulling martin on him via his head guard leading to a try. Whiting was nothing special yesterday n dont think he was fully fit. Limping n ice on hamstring last week. Think it was 1 of them days were everything was aligned for us to get a good spanking!
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| Quote: PAUL M "Use which ever word you think suits as I said I an not knocking the guy but we have just conceded a record number of points at home. Mitigating circumstances yes as I alluded to but it was still a very poor effort. Coach has to take some share of blame.'"
I don't see why there even has to be 'blame'. If you take 9 first team players out of any side in our sort of position (or higher, even), then put them against one of the top two sides in the competition who are fully fit and rested, you would almost certainly get a similar sort of scoreline. And as I said, it's not just the players that were out, but those who were playing who weren't fully fit. These are not just 'mitigating circumstances', but compelling reasons for us taking a bit of a pasting. There's no 'blame' to apportion, as far as I'm concerned.
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| We had a lot of young players playing together with a number of patched up senior players. The opposition, possibly the best team in the league currently, had a full strength side out having had the luxury of resting some players after Easter.
I'm not really sure why the OP wants to blame anyone. It's not a question of blame but one of circumstance. The fact Wigan put 50 odd on us yesterday isn't relevant to what the club have started to do since the takeover. It wont have any great bearing on what we do for the remainder of this season or the next two. What it does do is show the size of the task ahead but that's no bad thing.
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