Completely agree - obvious talent. Think Agar's easing him in but he's looking very capable of becoming a senior player before long.

And play him at 13 also.

Our kicking game is definately the worst part of our game, and watching rovers play leeds yesterday it was their kicking which won them the game for me (besides leeds and alibert playing pants). But we definately need something changing with our kicking

I stated this on Friday; every time 'we' kick for touch we manage 20mtrs tops, other teams seem to be able to find that distance with a bad kick. Obst doesn't have a big enough boot on him to get some decent distance; for me it should be Tickle or Westerman everytime.

Horney's long kicking game is hit or miss (usually miss). We need to turn the fullback/split the wingers with regularity so as to create greater pressure on the oppisition.

Whiting always seems to have a decent kick when he takes them.

Welcome to 2007

We haven't had a decent kicking game since cooke left. dykes may have had one if he wasn't always injured. A lot of it is also down to lack of organisation for me. The kicker never seems to have enough time to put in a decent one. The surprising thing is if you watch some matches for before 2007, horne's kicking game was much better than it is now

Horne and Brough used to consistently turn the opposition's full-back around.

I wonder why he can't do it anymore.

Like I said, organisation.

Also, why doesn't tickle take the touch kicks?

I spose place kicking is a different discipline to kicking out of your hand but then again theres nothing stopping us place kicking to touch

I think we just need to be smarter, if we kick late in tackle count make sure the ball bounce before it reaches the defenders or kick slightly early if the wingers are still up. I always though someone like Tickle would be good for belting it down field.

Unfortunately, by the end of the year, I fear that there's more chance of having any natural creativity & ability coached out of him

Baffling .

we need to play Westerman for the 80, get the old man playing prop, he's a solid defender but when Fitz gets the ball it slows us down, he made a break on Friday but didn't have the legs (or support) to do anything with it.

Isn't Long already a senior player??