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Quote: UllFC "Tickles form was poor for large parts of this season, and he's another player i feel the team could survive without, he's a workhorse and a goalkicker, but offers barely anything in attack.'"


Have to say I disagree, I think the problem with Tickle and others is that the style of play we seem to use offers nothing at all and that is why we see players play poorly. What can you do when there is no support play and its just 5 drives down the middle.
I seem to recall Agar stating that he now has options to be able to spell Tickle in games rather than flogging him to death.

As I said on another thread playing the game with 5 drives and a poor kick just eats your energy as you are continually trying hard to get out you own 40 only to find you are once again defending in your own half instead of the oppositions. On Sunday we struggled to make 25-30M on our own half with the 5 drives before kicking and seeing it returned with relaive ease.

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Quote: rover49 "Not that I am bothered that you are playing poorly, long may it continue, but Jon Sharp has never struck me as a motivator, when he speaks on TV he sounds like that Tory politician Geoffrey Howe, he is so booooring. I can imagine the players falling asleep when he speaks, Agar sound not much better either.'"


wayne bennett can be sleep inducing while brian Blessed would keep people awake. Who would you prefer at KR?

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Quote: rover49 "Not that I am bothered that you are playing poorly, long may it continue, but Jon Sharp has never struck me as a motivator, when he speaks on TV he sounds like that Tory politician Geoffrey Howe, he is so booooring. I can imagine the players falling asleep when he speaks, Agar sound not much better either.'"


We dont require your opinion , Thank-you very much . icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Marsdengiant "wayne bennett can be sleep inducing while brian Blessed would keep people awake. Who would you prefer at KR?'"


I'd have Brian Blessed at the KC. No question. He wouldn't need the 2 way radio they use for starters. Another saving for the board icon_wink.gif

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Quote: rover49 "Not that I am bothered that you are playing poorly, long may it continue, but Jon Sharp has never struck me as a motivator, when he speaks on TV he sounds like that Tory politician Geoffrey Howe, he is so booooring. I can imagine the players falling asleep when he speaks, Agar sound not much better either.'"


I'll take a motavation speach off either one of them anyday than a drool off a MEDIA JUNKIE the likes of Justine Morgan! icon_smile.gif

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Quote: hullandbroncos "Also the fact the players dont run onto the ball just wait there is another factor . '"


This is something that is not peculiar to this season. Apart from Jamie Thackray, you haven't seen any forward really hitting the ball since Steve Craven (unless some of our brethren with better memories care to correct me !). One of the things that kids get taught when they first start to play is to take the ball from deep. Love or hate Barry McDermott, he always looked like he was putting the required effort into the contact. All this stuff taking the ball from a four or five step run up is not effective.

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Quote: hullandbroncos "I have to agree that agar has made alot of mistakes especially with things like bench selections and the style of play he has adopted . However what annoys me is the players attitude , happened in john kear era , peter sharp when they first come they are up for the games and look interested however once they start to lose a few you can see there attitude and desire changes . It has happened this season first five games we were playin ok rugby but what got us through was the commitment from the players. The forwards were running with urgency and the defence was meeting the man with the ball not hanging back waiting .Now they have lost a couple you saw players slipping of tackles and hanging back . Also the fact the players dont run onto the ball just wait there is another factor . The manager has to take alot the blame but to many fans look past the players something needs to be done at the top otherwise player power will always dominate and the players should be proud of wearing the black and white shirt not just saying it !!'"

Quite right, we have the same squad of players that did the business earlier in the season, the only difference is the lack of commitment and that is just not acceptable!
We have had 3 coaches in 4 years and the players have shown the same attitude for each!
Its been said a thousand times before but if our players perform with passion and pride then most fans would accept the odd loss, but to slouch about like farts in a trance is just not good enough.
Richard Agar has done alot in preseason to try and address many of our weaknesses and apart from some odd substitutions and team selection lately has done wonders. I get the feeling he is an honest guy who is not set in his ways and will learn, he will also have a great chance to restructure the whole squad soon as many of our squad will be out of contract at the end of the season.

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Quote: colt-45 "I'll take a motavation speach off either one of them anyday than a drool off a MEDIA JUNKIE the likes of Justine Morgan!
You're obviously a player then icon_cool.gif

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Think the root of this weeks problem was maybe Saturday night icon_wink.gif

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Quote: CHUCKY "We are very low on confidence at the minute so we are not going to throw the ball around like we did in the first few games,but that doesn't mean we have to play predicatble 5 drives and a nothing kick at the end of each set.'"
Why should we be low in confidence......Cas beating us at home was the start of the 'slump'......But did something happen during training the week before that????? Just a thought 'cos we looked like we were struggling for a loss before that. It was like watching Hull in the 80's again (we just seemed to win all the time icon_cool.gif ).

Come on lads........Just do what you were doing before the Cas game eh? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Gordon Gekko "Think the root of this weeks problem was maybe Saturday night icon_eek.gif Or maybe the 'Gimme Some' song with the equally stupid dance has had a hand in our present form????? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: CHEWIE7 "Why should we be low in confidence......Cas beating us at home was the start of the 'slump'......But did something happen during training the week before that????? Just a thought 'cos we looked like we were struggling for a loss before that. It was like watching Hull in the 80's again (we just seemed to win all the time
Your hardly gonna be full of it after 2 very poor peformances before yesterday are you????

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Quote: CHEWIE7 "Why should we be low in confidence'"

Because we're currently playing worse than the average under 10's side?

Just a thought.

Quote: CHEWIE7 "It was like watching Hull in the 80's again'"

Oh no it feckin' wasn't! Not by a VERY long way.

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Quote: Largeparts "This is something that is not peculiar to this season. Apart from Jamie Thackray, you haven't seen any forward really hitting the ball since Steve Craven (unless some of our brethren with better memories care to correct me !). One of the things that kids get taught when they first start to play is to take the ball from deep. Love or hate Barry McDermott, he always looked like he was putting the required effort into the contact. All this stuff taking the ball from a four or five step run up is not effective.'"


This bugs the hell out of me too. player like King could be destructive running onto the ball, he has that natural aggression but he is one of the worst for standing still while collecting and not making any impact in the collision.

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Quote: Gordon Gekko "Think the root of this weeks problem was maybe Saturday night
Then don't pay any of them this week. If they don't like it then sack em!

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