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Quote: hull2524 "i see the aussie teams are taking the knee after games, what are peoples opinions and should we follow suit?'"


Its just fuelling racism and totally the wrong thing to do
i dont think this would happen in football or rugby if fans were in the ground
Career criminal or not non of us condone what happened to the guy in the USA at the hands of the police but its time to let this go and stop all the media coverage.

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Quote: bonaire "Its just fuelling racism and totally the wrong thing to do
i dont think this would happen in football or rugby if fans were in the ground
Career criminal or not non of us condone what happened to the guy in the USA at the hands of the police but its time to let this go and stop all the media coverage.'"


Stop all the media coverage of anti-racism protests or stop all the media coverage of racism?

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Stop all the media coverage of anti-racism protests or stop all the media coverage of racism?'"

I think bonaire meant stop all the biased coverage, BLM is important, so too are those that feel it has been hijacked to try and cause violence and unrest, as mich as I hate the right wing viewpoint, they have as much right to protest as BLM, but they get a much more negative narrative, especially from the BBC.

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Quote: hull2524 "i see the aussie teams are taking the knee after games, what are peoples opinions and should we follow suit?'"


Well I’m not kneeling, I wouldn’t get up again.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Stop all the media coverage of anti-racism protests or stop all the media coverage of racism?'"

Probably both, until such time that everyone can sit down and discuss all the issues in an open and adult way.

Black lives matter, as a statement and a cause, as opposed to Black Lives Matter as an organised movement, being one of the main ones. Every person on the planet should be able to support the statement, but unfortunately The Movement has more, far reaching aims.

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Keep politics out of it. I can see the Burnley thing getting out of hand

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "Well I’m not kneeling, I wouldn’t get up again.'"


I doubt I would get down with my knees icon_lol.gif

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Quote: IR80 "I think bonaire meant stop all the biased coverage, BLM is important, so too are those that feel it has been hijacked to try and cause violence and unrest, as mich as I hate the right wing viewpoint, they have as much right to protest as BLM, but they get a much more negative narrative, especially from the BBC.'"


The biased coverage is getting out of hand.
The fact that flying a White lives matter banner near to Burnleys stadium yesterday is deemed to be racist and now subject to a police investigation sums it up.
As far as sport is concerned i believe players would not have been drawn into this had the public been able to attend matches.
It was all too easy for players.managers,referees and staff in attendance at recent matches to kneel in an empty stadium without fan reaction.
Also lets get players names back on their shirts and draw a line under this now before it escalates any further.

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Quote: bonaire "The biased coverage is getting out of hand.
The fact that flying a White lives matter banner near to Burnleys stadium yesterday is deemed to be racist and now subject to a police investigation sums it up.
As far as sport is concerned i believe players would not have been drawn into this had the public been able to attend matches.
It was all too easy for players.managers,referees and staff in attendance at recent matches to kneel in an empty stadium without fan reaction.
Also lets get players names back on their shirts and draw a line under this now before it escalates any further.'"

Again, I agree. Why are the Police investigating, are they going to investigate the multiple churches I walk or cycle past that have quotes from the Bible on boards outside, or Government anti-smoking messages, or in fact, anything that expresses opinion?

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Quote: IR80 "Again, I agree. Why are the Police investigating, are they going to investigate the multiple churches I walk or cycle past that have quotes from the Bible on boards outside, or Government anti-smoking messages, or in fact, anything that expresses opinion?'"

I agree, I'm struggling to see what 'crime' is being investigated.

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Quote: Large Paws "I agree, I'm struggling to see what 'crime' is being investigated.'"

It seems the guy who organised it is a pretty vile individual, so the Police possibly knew that already... they have said they are not taking any action but his g/f or fiancee or whatever has been sacked for some comments she has posted on Facebook. The banner in itself was not a crime, it seems the intention was to cause offense as opposed to simply providing a point of view, still doesn't warrant the media coverage it recieved, as bonaire said, it is what these things (from all sides) lead to that is the main concern, people were more bothered about the Churchill statue getting defaced and having to be boarded up than they were the protest itself. I dare say had The Mayor London been Boris and said he was "protecting a symbol of national pride" there wouldn't't have been half as much 'noise'. And this is the problem, it isn't the snowflake that starts the avalanche, it's the village at the bottom of the mountain where people are at risk.

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The only way to end racism is for colour to be removed altogether particularly in the way media report.
Why did it have to be reported as white cop kills Blackman? Would it have been reported as black cop kills white man? Or just just reported as police brutality cops kills man?
The BLM movement to me now seems more of a mob mentality out to stir up racial tension and their cause and voice is getting lost in all the over hyping etc. . The BLM movement do not seem to speak out so much about black on black deaths which is also a big problem & is just as important in terms black lives mattering.
Yes there is racism in the world along with all kinds of discrimination and it’s very hard to rid the world completely of such things. All that the recent protests with violence and trying to wipe out history is doing is setting us back decades.
All lives matter no matter your what colour that life is.
Sadly in today’s world you can’t have open and honest debate for fear of upsetting some people/groups etc or being classified as, racist, homophobic, transphobic etc if you are not the right colour or representation etc. The so called celebrity outrage too is nauseating as half of them haven’t got a clue or live in the real world but see it as a way to garner media attention.
Question is, is the world becoming better or worse with it all?

No doubt someone will criticise this post because they feel offended and if that’s the case it’s just proves the point.

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Quote: Chris71 "The only way to end racism is for colour to be removed altogether particularly in the way media report.
Why did it have to be reported as white cop kills Blackman? Would it have been reported as black cop kills white man? Or just just reported as police brutality cops kills man?
The BLM movement to me now seems more of a mob mentality out to stir up racial tension and their cause and voice is getting lost in all the over hyping etc. . The BLM movement do not seem to speak out so much about black on black deaths which is also a big problem & is just as important in terms black lives mattering.
Yes there is racism in the world along with all kinds of discrimination and it’s very hard to rid the world completely of such things. That says all the recent protests and violence and trying to wipe out history is doing is setting us back decades.
All lives matter no matter your what colour that life is.
Sadly in today’s world you can’t have open and honest debate for fear of upsetting some people/groups etc or being classified as, racist, homophobic, transphobic etc if you are not the right colour or representation etc. The so called celebrity outrage too is nauseating as half of them haven’t got a clue or live in the real world but see it as a way to garner media attention.
Question is, is the world becoming better or worse with it all?

No doubt someone will criticise this post because they feel offended and if that’s the case it’s just proves the point.'"

Bang on chris, great post. And the answer to your question, probably worst, undoing all the great progress of the last 80 years

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Quote: Chris71 "The only way to end racism is for colour to be removed altogether particularly in the way media report.
Why did it have to be reported as white cop kills Blackman? Would it have been reported as black cop kills white man? Or just just reported as police brutality cops kills man?
The BLM movement to me now seems more of a mob mentality out to stir up racial tension and their cause and voice is getting lost in all the over hyping etc. . The BLM movement do not seem to speak out so much about black on black deaths which is also a big problem & is just as important in terms black lives mattering.
Yes there is racism in the world along with all kinds of discrimination and it’s very hard to rid the world completely of such things. All that the recent protests with violence and trying to wipe out history is doing is setting us back decades.
All lives matter no matter your what colour that life is.
Sadly in today’s world you can’t have open and honest debate for fear of upsetting some people/groups etc or being classified as, racist, homophobic, transphobic etc if you are not the right colour or representation etc. The so called celebrity outrage too is nauseating as half of them haven’t got a clue or live in the real world but see it as a way to garner media attention.
Question is, is the world becoming better or worse with it all?

No doubt someone will criticise this post because they feel offended and if that’s the case it’s just proves the point.'"

Excellent post.

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