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If we are to get into the play offs, we need to win the next 4 games, london, widnes, catalan and wakefield, all away but if we are truly a top 8 contender these are the games we should be winning imo

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While I of course want us to be as successful as we can, I don't see what scraping in to 8th place really does for us, we have shown we are completely incapable of being better sides anyway.

I'd rather see Radford given the chop and a new coach to come in and experiment with the side and play the youth in readiness for next season.

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Quote: gellis11 "If we are to get into the play offs, we need to win the next 4 games, london, widnes, catalan and wakefield, all away but if we are truly a top 8 contender these are the games we should be winning imo'"


With our abysmal away record I can only see us beating London(maybe)

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Some massive drama queenery on this board
not great currently granted.
But win next week and get some confidence back into us. Have a week off due to cup. That's a fortnight's training working on deficiencies. During that time players like lineham and Sa will benefit massively. If we pick up a win in the following game the whole place, players fans etc will feel better different place.
Sport is based around confidence and that can be fueled by form. And why good form and bad form happens is sometimes a mystery. But even the best teams get it. I've not been a fan as long as some on here but without asking for blind optimism a few wins and it's totally different.

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London and Wakey definitely, however Catalans away is, as always, a tough game. It said during the commentary on Saturday that Leeds are the only team to win there this year (although can't remember who else has been, they may have all been poor teams).
Widnes away is also a tricky game. They're a better team than us this year, and have we ever actually won on their Ipitch?

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Some massive drama queenery on this board
not great currently granted.
But win next week and get some confidence back into us. Have a week off due to cup. That's a fortnight's training working on deficiencies. During that time players like lineham and Sa will benefit massively. If we pick up a win in the following game the whole place, players fans etc will feel better different place.
Sport is based around confidence and that can be fueled by form. And why good form and bad form happens is sometimes a mystery. But even the best teams get it. I've not been a fan as long as some on here but without asking for blind optimism a few wins and it's totally different.'"


Confidence is the biggest issue we face at the moment you're right. London will know that on Saturday and will fancy it as most teams do these days when playing us. Our lack of confidence will feed theirs. Important that we have a basic game plan and complete well IMO. Our pack should get on top of theirs if we get an equal share of the ball.

The trouble will start if we don't roll pour sleeves up but instead try and score every play. Make a few mistakes and the fragile mind set we possess will make its familiar appearance.

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Some massive drama queenery on this board
not great currently granted.
But win next week and get some confidence back into us. Have a week off due to cup. That's a fortnight's training working on deficiencies. During that time players like lineham and Sa will benefit massively. If we pick up a win in the following game the whole place, players fans etc will feel better different place.
Sport is based around confidence and that can be fueled by form. And why good form and bad form happens is sometimes a mystery. But even the best teams get it. I've not been a fan as long as some on here but without asking for blind optimism a few wins and it's totally different.'"


very sensible view.
Some of these keyboard warriors need to take a chill pill. Most of them weren't around when things were REALLY bad.

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Quote: TrevLovesJanice "very sensible view.
Some of these keyboard warriors need to take a chill pill. Most of them weren't around when things were REALLY bad.'"


Shudders.

Peter Walsh. Len Casey.

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Next 6 are all winnable if we can find any form.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Next 6 are all winnable if we can find any form.'"


You think our young Aussie halves are both cr@p and that our young inexperienced coach isn't up to the job and that there's the possiblity of us foghting a relegation battle but still believe we may/should possibly win the next six.
Seriously?

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I think its fair to say that the next 4 games are winnable. They will certainly define our season. Win all 4 and we might just start to view things a little differently such is the fickle nature of supporting a club we all love.
Equally though anything less than 4 points and I suspect the knives if not already sharpened will certainly be sharp and poised for action.

As fans we have to have faith that all will be good and we turn a corner. That said though anything less than a convincing win at London and I suspect things will really start to turn nasty. Our record in the capital is appalling and its not really the place we need to be going to gain some confidence. Its a no win situation imo.

I am far from convinced that we have the right coach to take us where we want to be. But equally I will be there on Saturday hoping that we get a good performance and we can move into the break with a win and use the break to get some bodies patched up and get some coherence especially amongst the backs.

I am still holding out for a top 8 finish, if for nothing else than a bit of confidence that we can actually get in the 8 with a very average set of players and hopefully build on that in 2015 once AP has cleared ALL the deadwood out regardless of place of birth. Because there is absolutely no way that we want to be out of the top 8 after this season.

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Quote: Diablo1967 "Shudders.

Peter Walsh. Len Casey.'"

Dont see much difference between Radford and Casey to be honest.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Next 6 are all winnable if we can find any form.'"

Pint of what your drinking please. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: gellis11 "If we are to get into the play offs, we need to win the next 4 games, london, widnes, catalan and wakefield, all away but if we are truly a top 8 contender these are the games we should be winning imo'"


London is a must win as others have been saying. Widnes are a good team this year but even if they weren't our last two games at Widnes have been shockers so I can't see a win in that one. Catalans away is never easy. Wakey away could be tricky having already lost to them at the KC.

If we come out of these fixtures with four points I'll be happy.

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