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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Who did Agar play from the u-20s compared to Gentles trust in them.

AGAR

Briscoe,Lyne,Nicklas

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Ellis,Bowden,Kent,Green,Crooks.

Any ive missed

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Did Ellis join us in time to play under Agar?

Agree with where I think you're going though!

I also made the point to the mrs earlier, that when Sts, Leeds etc were bringing their youngsters in, they were brought into a winning team, whereas we aren't yet, so it's more difficult for them to impress. Having said that, I'm happy with how all of them are doing so far

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Lineham next?

But then again unless Sharp or Briscoe get injured I can't see him getting a game this year.

Is Lyne a fullback now seeing as that's were he said he would like to play, and PG has said he doesn't want to move players around. So who would be our third choice winger now?

For me Lyne won't make it in SL.

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Quote: fc baldy "Who did Agar play from the u-20s compared to Gentles trust in them.

AGAR

Briscoe,Lyne,Nicklas

'"


Briscoe played under Peter Sharp at first

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Cunningham for Agar as well.

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Did Anthony Thackray debut under Agar or Sharp?

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Aldous , Cunnignham and Kent made bench appearances under Agar

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Quote: Hutchie "Aldous , Cunnignham and Kent made bench appearances under Agar'"



kent played against oldham las season in the cup, does that really count?

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Quote: fc baldy "Who did Agar play from the u-20s compared to Gentles trust in them.

AGAR

Briscoe,Lyne,Nicklas

GENTLE

Ellis,Bowden,Kent,Green,Crooks.

Any ive missed'"


Only played for 10-15 minutes and it was out of position at centre/wing wasn't it?

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Quote: Hutchie "Aldous , Cunnignham and Kent made bench appearances under Agar'"

Probably in one of his "I'll only use 10 of the 12 changes and use 3 of the 4 available players for that" games.

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Cunningham played in the Catalans away game under Agar.
Nicklas saw a 20 minute cameo at wing/centre under Agar.
Lyne got a few games on the wing.
I don't count players like Kent and Aldous who only got games in the early stages of the cup or in preseason.


For Gentle:
Bowden - several SL games
Green - couple SL games
Kent - SL/Cup games
Crooks - SL game
Ellis doesn't really count as he isn't an academy player and played all last season in the championship.


The main differences for me between the two are:

1) Agar would move the team around to always have his senior players in, regardless of them being out of position. Gentle does a like-for-like replacement.
2) Agar tended to give players 20 minutes off the bench. Gentle has offered them starts or 30-40 minutes.
3) Gentle's let them play in their actual position, not just shoved them on the wing/centre.

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Gentle has done more for the future of the club in 5 months than Shergar did in 5 years. He has shown the youngsters that a 1st team place can be attained. You can see these young kids gaining in confidence and actually believing in themselves. Bowden is now an important part of the senior squad and doesn't look out of place. Kent hopefully will follow.

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The big difference for me between the 2 is Agar used to always say they weren't ready when questioned about the u20's and gentle says he'll come in and do a good job for the team. (even if he doesn't always think they will)
How can you ever be mentally ready when your coach is telling the world your not?

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Quote: Locko's Luck "Gentle has done more for the future of the club in 5 months than Shergar did in 5 years. He has shown the youngsters that a 1st team place can be attained. You can see these young kids gaining in confidence and actually believing in themselves. Bowden is now an important part of the senior squad and doesn't look out of place. Kent hopefully will follow.'"


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Quote: Panda92 "Cunningham played in the Catalans away game under Agar.
Nicklas saw a 20 minute cameo at wing/centre under Agar.
Lyne got a few games on the wing.
I don't count players like Kent and Aldous who only got games in the early stages of the cup or in preseason.


For Gentle

or looking at it another way gentle has played 5 players from the u20s in just 3 months of the competition, agar played only 3 players in nearly 5 years

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