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Not, it seems.

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A61490793

Shamelessly ripped from the 606 messageboard and "Wolfman Kenny" who has basically ranked each attendance by ground and allocated points 13-1 to away support. Obviously the methodology is subjective and there are match-specific factors to take account of, but thought it was interesting.

Vs Bradford @ Odsal: 13pts- Leeds (14554) 12pts- Hull KR (12141) 11pts- Hull (11327) 10pts- Saints (10599) 9pts- Huddersfield (10186) 8pts- Wigan (9487) 7pts- Cas (8971) 6pts- Wire (8643) 5pts- Wakefield (8387) 4pts- Salford (8167) 3pts- Catalans (7919) 2pts- Quins (7813) 1pt- Celtic (7602)

Vs Cas @ The Jungle: 13pts- Wakefield (10155) 12pts-Bradford (9185) 11pts-Hull KR (8709) 10pts- Hull (8297) 9pts- Leeds (8082) 8pts- Saints (8003) 7pts- Salford (7052) 6pts- Quins (7049) 5pts- Wigan (6754) 4pts- Huddersfield (6572) 3pts- Celtic (6547) 2pts- Wire (562icon_cool.gif 1pt- Catalans (550icon_cool.gif

Vs Catalans @ Stade Aime Giral: 13pts- Wire (18150) 12pts- Wigan (9490) 11pts- Hull (9800) 10pts- Hull KR (9073) 9pts- Saints (9065) 8pts- Wakefield (8755) 7pts- Salford (8327) 6pts- Quins (8324) 5pts- Cas (8150) 4pts- Leeds (7913) 3pts- Bradford (7620) 2pts- Huddersfield (7520) 1pt- Celtic- 6784

Vs Celtic @ Brewery Field: 13pts- Saints (6351) 12pts- Leeds (5997) 11pts- Hull (5272) 10pts- Wigan (5253) 9pts- Wire (3231) 8pts- Bradford (3089) 7pts- Hull KR (3015) 5.5pts- Quins & Salford (3009) 4pts- Catalans (2972) 3pts- Cas (2857) 2pts- Wakefield (2089) 1pt- Huddersfield (198icon_cool.gif

Vs Quins @ Twickenham Stoop: 13pts- Leeds (437icon_cool.gif 12pts- Saints (425icon_cool.gif 11pts- Huddersfield (3916) 10pts- Wigan (3883) 9pts- Cas (3824) 8pts- Wakefield (3612) 7pts- Bradford (3112) 6pts- Hull (3593) 5pts- Hull KR (3492) 4pts- Wire (3026) 3pts- Salford (2612) 2pts- Catalans (2539) 1pt- (2245)

Vs Huddersfield @ Galpharm: 13pts- Leeds (11593) 12pts- Saints (1133icon_cool.gif 11pts- Hull (10459) 10pts- Wigan (898icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (7982) 8pts- Wakefield (7846) 7pts- Wire (7107) 6pts- Salford (6903) 5pts- (6356) 4pts- Celtic (6407) 3pts- Hull KR- (6346) 2pts- Cas- (6010) 1pt- Catalans (5823)

Vs Hull @ KC Stadium: 13pts- Hull KR (22332) 12pts- Quins (15592) 11pts- Wigan (14523) 10pts- Cas (1402icon_cool.gif 9pts- Catalans (12482) 8pts- Saints (12009) 7pts- Wakefield (11975) 6pts- Leeds (11780) 5pts- Salford (1121icon_cool.gif 4pts- Huddersfield (11191) 3pts- Wire (10997) 2pts- Bradford (10412) 1pt- Celtic (10397)

Vs Hull KR @ Craven Park: 13pts- Hull (9450) 12pts- Wakefield (903icon_cool.gif 11pts- Wigan (9007) 10pts- Saints 8976) 9pts- Huddersfield (8731) 8pts- Leeds (8623) 7pts- Wire (8579) 6pts- Bradford (8026) 5pts- Catalans (8115) 3.5pts- Cas & Salford (8104) 2pts- Celtic (8046) 1pt- Quins (7874)

Vs Leeds @ Headingley: 13pts- Saints (19997) 12pts- Bradford- 17824 11pts- Wigan (17667) 10pts- Cas (16931) 9pts- Hull KR (16192) 8pts- hull (15929) 7pts- Wakefield (15643) 6pts- Huddersfield (14934) 5pts- Celtic (14827) 4pts- Salford (14381) 3pts- Quins (13912) 2pts- Catalans (13425) 1pt- Wire (13386)

Vs Salford @ The Willows: 13pts- Wigan- (7016) 12pts- Wire (6150) 11pts- Leeds (6101) 10pts- Saints (480icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (4383) 8pts- Hull KR (4222) 7pts- Hull (4165) 6pts- Celtic (4026) 5pts- Huddersfield (3721) 4pts- Quins (3367) 3pts- (3487) 2pts- Catalans (3475) 1pt- Wakefield (3151)

Vs Saints @ Knowsley Road: 13pts- Wire (17009) 12pts- Wigan (15563) 11pts- Leeds (13996) 10pts- Hull (13684) 9pts- Hull KR (11830) 8pts- Bradford (11039) 7pts- Salford (9723) 6pts- Cas (9680) 5pts- Quins (9359) 4pts- Huddersfield (870icon_cool.gif 3pts- Celtic (8684) 2pts- Wakefield (8651) 1pt- Catalans (826icon_cool.gif

Vs Wakefield @ Belle Vue: 13pts- Cas (8371) 12pts- Celtic (7893) 11pts- Salford (657icon_cool.gif 10pts- Bradford (6516) 9pts- Leeds (6425) 8pts- Hull KR (632icon_cool.gif 7pts- Saints (603icon_cool.gif 6pts- Wigan (5521) 4pts- Quins (5079) 3pts- Huddersfield (5037) 2pts- Catalans (4807) 1pt- Hull (4721)

Vs Warrington @ HJ: 13pts- Saints (12075) 12pts- Wigan (1071icon_cool.gif 11pts- Leeds (9863) 10pts- Bradford (9606) 9pts- Hull (9170) 8pts- Salford (890icon_cool.gif 7pts- Wakefield (8681) 6pts- Hull KR (8457) 5pts- Cas (8202) 4pts- Quins (8010) 3pts- Huddersfield (8007) 2pts- (7947) 1pt- (7854)

Vs Wigan @ JJB: 13pts- Saints (22232) 12pts- Leeds (20295) 11pts- Quins (14977) 10pts- Wakefield (14377) 9pts- Wire (13452) 8pts- Hull KR (13415) 7pts- Bradford (1258icon_cool.gif 6pts- Hull (12491) 5pts- Celtic (12731) 4pts- Cas (12079) 3pts- Huddersfield (11760) 2pts- Salford (11550) 1pt- Catalans (11543)

When you add up all of the points each team got for last season, you get:

1. Saints- 138pts
2. Leeds- 132pts
3. Wigan- 131pts
4. Hull- 114pts
5. Hull KR- 109pts
6. Bradford- 103pts
7. Wire- 91pts
8. Wakefield- 90pts
9. Cas- 80.5pts
10. Salford- 73pts
11. Quins- 68.5pts
12. Huddersfield- 64pts
13. Celtic- 45pts
14. Catalans- 35pts

Surprises for me are Saints at the top and Wire only on a par with Wakefield.
Not, it seems.

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A61490793

Shamelessly ripped from the 606 messageboard and "Wolfman Kenny" who has basically ranked each attendance by ground and allocated points 13-1 to away support. Obviously the methodology is subjective and there are match-specific factors to take account of, but thought it was interesting.

Vs Bradford @ Odsal: 13pts- Leeds (14554) 12pts- Hull KR (12141) 11pts- Hull (11327) 10pts- Saints (10599) 9pts- Huddersfield (10186) 8pts- Wigan (9487) 7pts- Cas (8971) 6pts- Wire (8643) 5pts- Wakefield (8387) 4pts- Salford (8167) 3pts- Catalans (7919) 2pts- Quins (7813) 1pt- Celtic (7602)

Vs Cas @ The Jungle: 13pts- Wakefield (10155) 12pts-Bradford (9185) 11pts-Hull KR (8709) 10pts- Hull (8297) 9pts- Leeds (8082) 8pts- Saints (8003) 7pts- Salford (7052) 6pts- Quins (7049) 5pts- Wigan (6754) 4pts- Huddersfield (6572) 3pts- Celtic (6547) 2pts- Wire (562icon_cool.gif 1pt- Catalans (550icon_cool.gif

Vs Catalans @ Stade Aime Giral: 13pts- Wire (18150) 12pts- Wigan (9490) 11pts- Hull (9800) 10pts- Hull KR (9073) 9pts- Saints (9065) 8pts- Wakefield (8755) 7pts- Salford (8327) 6pts- Quins (8324) 5pts- Cas (8150) 4pts- Leeds (7913) 3pts- Bradford (7620) 2pts- Huddersfield (7520) 1pt- Celtic- 6784

Vs Celtic @ Brewery Field: 13pts- Saints (6351) 12pts- Leeds (5997) 11pts- Hull (5272) 10pts- Wigan (5253) 9pts- Wire (3231) 8pts- Bradford (3089) 7pts- Hull KR (3015) 5.5pts- Quins & Salford (3009) 4pts- Catalans (2972) 3pts- Cas (2857) 2pts- Wakefield (2089) 1pt- Huddersfield (198icon_cool.gif

Vs Quins @ Twickenham Stoop: 13pts- Leeds (437icon_cool.gif 12pts- Saints (425icon_cool.gif 11pts- Huddersfield (3916) 10pts- Wigan (3883) 9pts- Cas (3824) 8pts- Wakefield (3612) 7pts- Bradford (3112) 6pts- Hull (3593) 5pts- Hull KR (3492) 4pts- Wire (3026) 3pts- Salford (2612) 2pts- Catalans (2539) 1pt- (2245)

Vs Huddersfield @ Galpharm: 13pts- Leeds (11593) 12pts- Saints (1133icon_cool.gif 11pts- Hull (10459) 10pts- Wigan (898icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (7982) 8pts- Wakefield (7846) 7pts- Wire (7107) 6pts- Salford (6903) 5pts- (6356) 4pts- Celtic (6407) 3pts- Hull KR- (6346) 2pts- Cas- (6010) 1pt- Catalans (5823)

Vs Hull @ KC Stadium: 13pts- Hull KR (22332) 12pts- Quins (15592) 11pts- Wigan (14523) 10pts- Cas (1402icon_cool.gif 9pts- Catalans (12482) 8pts- Saints (12009) 7pts- Wakefield (11975) 6pts- Leeds (11780) 5pts- Salford (1121icon_cool.gif 4pts- Huddersfield (11191) 3pts- Wire (10997) 2pts- Bradford (10412) 1pt- Celtic (10397)

Vs Hull KR @ Craven Park: 13pts- Hull (9450) 12pts- Wakefield (903icon_cool.gif 11pts- Wigan (9007) 10pts- Saints 8976) 9pts- Huddersfield (8731) 8pts- Leeds (8623) 7pts- Wire (8579) 6pts- Bradford (8026) 5pts- Catalans (8115) 3.5pts- Cas & Salford (8104) 2pts- Celtic (8046) 1pt- Quins (7874)

Vs Leeds @ Headingley: 13pts- Saints (19997) 12pts- Bradford- 17824 11pts- Wigan (17667) 10pts- Cas (16931) 9pts- Hull KR (16192) 8pts- hull (15929) 7pts- Wakefield (15643) 6pts- Huddersfield (14934) 5pts- Celtic (14827) 4pts- Salford (14381) 3pts- Quins (13912) 2pts- Catalans (13425) 1pt- Wire (13386)

Vs Salford @ The Willows: 13pts- Wigan- (7016) 12pts- Wire (6150) 11pts- Leeds (6101) 10pts- Saints (480icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (4383) 8pts- Hull KR (4222) 7pts- Hull (4165) 6pts- Celtic (4026) 5pts- Huddersfield (3721) 4pts- Quins (3367) 3pts- (3487) 2pts- Catalans (3475) 1pt- Wakefield (3151)

Vs Saints @ Knowsley Road: 13pts- Wire (17009) 12pts- Wigan (15563) 11pts- Leeds (13996) 10pts- Hull (13684) 9pts- Hull KR (11830) 8pts- Bradford (11039) 7pts- Salford (9723) 6pts- Cas (9680) 5pts- Quins (9359) 4pts- Huddersfield (870icon_cool.gif 3pts- Celtic (8684) 2pts- Wakefield (8651) 1pt- Catalans (826icon_cool.gif

Vs Wakefield @ Belle Vue: 13pts- Cas (8371) 12pts- Celtic (7893) 11pts- Salford (657icon_cool.gif 10pts- Bradford (6516) 9pts- Leeds (6425) 8pts- Hull KR (632icon_cool.gif 7pts- Saints (603icon_cool.gif 6pts- Wigan (5521) 4pts- Quins (5079) 3pts- Huddersfield (5037) 2pts- Catalans (4807) 1pt- Hull (4721)

Vs Warrington @ HJ: 13pts- Saints (12075) 12pts- Wigan (1071icon_cool.gif 11pts- Leeds (9863) 10pts- Bradford (9606) 9pts- Hull (9170) 8pts- Salford (890icon_cool.gif 7pts- Wakefield (8681) 6pts- Hull KR (8457) 5pts- Cas (8202) 4pts- Quins (8010) 3pts- Huddersfield (8007) 2pts- (7947) 1pt- (7854)

Vs Wigan @ JJB: 13pts- Saints (22232) 12pts- Leeds (20295) 11pts- Quins (14977) 10pts- Wakefield (14377) 9pts- Wire (13452) 8pts- Hull KR (13415) 7pts- Bradford (1258icon_cool.gif 6pts- Hull (12491) 5pts- Celtic (12731) 4pts- Cas (12079) 3pts- Huddersfield (11760) 2pts- Salford (11550) 1pt- Catalans (11543)

When you add up all of the points each team got for last season, you get:

1. Saints- 138pts
2. Leeds- 132pts
3. Wigan- 131pts
4. Hull- 114pts
5. Hull KR- 109pts
6. Bradford- 103pts
7. Wire- 91pts
8. Wakefield- 90pts
9. Cas- 80.5pts
10. Salford- 73pts
11. Quins- 68.5pts
12. Huddersfield- 64pts
13. Celtic- 45pts
14. Catalans- 35pts

Surprises for me are Saints at the top and Wire only on a par with Wakefield.
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Meaningless pretty much. I think the quins crowd at the KC almost proves it on its own!
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Quote: Mrs Barista "Not, it seems.
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Quote: hull smallears "Meaningless pretty much. I think the quins crowd at the KC almost proves it on its own!'"

icon_lol.gif I know it's flawed, but over a season I reckon a lot of anomalies would even themselves out.
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Saints & leeds are helped by being the standard top 2 teams so even when away you get a lot more part time supporters turning up to those games.

It would be interesting to see 'Official' figures for away fans attendance. Still to finish 4th on last seasons showing is still some going.

You also have to take into account freebies given out at certain games as well as other influences.
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Supjective!!! on so many fronts.
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Quote: hullbg "Saints & leeds are helped by being the standard top 2 teams so even when away you get a lot more part time supporters turning up to those games.

It would be interesting to see 'Official' figures for away fans attendance. Still to finish 4th on last seasons showing is still some going.

You also have to take into account freebies given out at certain games as well as other influences.'"


In a nutshell. Would be totally different.
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Doesn't make any sense IMO. icon_confused.gif
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Quote: hullbg "Saints & leeds are helped by being the standard top 2 teams so even when away you get a lot more part time supporters turning up to those games.

It would be interesting to see 'Official' figures for away fans attendance. Still to finish 4th on last seasons showing is still some going.

You also have to take into account freebies given out at certain games as well as other influences.'"


I don't disagree, but when official total attendances are often disputed/ met with disbelief, the chances of getting accurate away numbers is pretty remote. icon_wink.gif
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Quote: Roofs "Doesn't make any sense IMO.
What, the answer or the scoring methodology?
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Also you need to take matchdays into consideration. Some people just cannot make lancashire for a friday night kick off. Other teams benefit from being very close to a number of clubs hence skewing the results.

All in all it is a well put together bit of research and scored well.
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Quote: Mrs Barista "What, the answer or the scoring methodology?'"


The methodology! icon_confused.gif Like someone said, Saints are one of the biggest home games of the season for many clubs, but they often bring less then several teams to CP, e.g. Wire, Wigan, Leeds, Hull (obviously) have all brought more at different points.

Just a silly thing really (which must have taken someone a lot of time to do! icon_twisted.gif ).
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Quote: Mrs Barista "What, the answer or the scoring methodology?'"

Rovers not being top. icon_wink.gif
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Quote: TKOAH "Rovers not being top.
In reality we are. icon_wink.gif icon_smile.gif

Seriously it's all a bit daft. a010.gif icon_smile.gif
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Daft way of working it out. I think both Hull and Rovers fans can be proud of their away support. There's already a minimum 45 miles on the clock before you even think about leaving Hull for an away fixture.
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20:00		 Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00		 Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00		 Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30		 St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00		 Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00		 Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00		 Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00		 Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00		 Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00		 Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30		 Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00		 Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00		 Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00		 St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30		 Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30		 Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30		 Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00		 Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00		 St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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