We all knew it but after Catalans win today.

We can't make the playoffs.

Is there any solace in finishing 9th ? I'd say not

Chuck a couple more young uns in for the last 2 games

Has to be done, no point playing anyone not in the 17 next season, no time for sentiment.

I want to win these last two games or at least show the same desire and commitment as Friday and build on that performance.

That will give me confidence for next season and prove they can perform week after week.

Lets not treat them as nothing games.

but do you want to win them with players who wont be at the club?

with Sneyd and Pryce next season, it's a different team, even if some of the old stagers still pull on the B&W...?

Don't care.

Want to see us show the desire and commitment we showed on Friday.

Going with the mind set that these are nothing games could undo that and again leave fans deflated.

We've got two tough games left plus I want to see us finish as high as possible. I know some on here would use the old boring cliche of "papering over the cracks" should we beat Leeds but it would be some consolation to do that and it would end the season on a positive note.

Playing weakened teams and potentially copping two hidings achieves nothing. We should play the strongest side possible in both remaining games.

2 hammerings would be very damaging for the club in season pass sales

so we play people who wont even be here next season, when the season is gone.

explains the perspective of some people I guess. Some of us want to win something, not salvage a little pride.

Pick the best team,go out with fire in their bellys n use the confidence taken from the other night into the games. Finish strong. Most the players will still be here. Take that positivity into the offseason to work with. Pulling the team apart to throw youngsters in for the sake of it against those oppositions would do the youngsters more harm than good. If they're not quite ready leave them to be ready.

Finishing the season well and on a positive is important to take us into next season, look at Cas last year, finished the season well and carried it on to this year.

We are only talking about two players in Horne and Heremia anyway, not loads of the team.

and how do we know they are ready, this is the ideal time to try them out, surely?

Winning, or at the very least putting up credible performances, is the most important thing. A positive end to the season would also do wonders for pass sales with the feel good factor it would create as AP is no doubt aware. I wasn't aware that players who are leaving get 2 games off - does their pay get discounted for this? And as we are going with new half backs next year the continuity/preparation argument isn't strong.

PAPER + CRACKS AGAIN

What against two great big/strong/fast/smart/powerfull teams we should just fill our team with 17yr olds? Cos all our prospects are a yr below them selves in the 19s. Throwing them en block in for the whole team to go into the off season on the back of 2potential batterings isnt good player welfare managment,general managment,business sense or logical.

But slinging a team full of kids out is no good either, what good is playing HTW & Dean for 2games when Sneyd & Pryce will be the starting halfs come 2015, you have to field the strongest team possible, did the Bradford 2005 grand final winning team finish the season with kids just because the majority was leaving?