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Not, it seems.

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A61490793

Shamelessly ripped from the 606 messageboard and "Wolfman Kenny" who has basically ranked each attendance by ground and allocated points 13-1 to away support. Obviously the methodology is subjective and there are match-specific factors to take account of, but thought it was interesting.

Vs Bradford @ Odsal: 13pts- Leeds (14554) 12pts- Hull KR (12141) 11pts- Hull (11327) 10pts- Saints (10599) 9pts- Huddersfield (10186) 8pts- Wigan (9487) 7pts- Cas (8971) 6pts- Wire (8643) 5pts- Wakefield (8387) 4pts- Salford (8167) 3pts- Catalans (7919) 2pts- Quins (7813) 1pt- Celtic (7602)

Vs Cas @ The Jungle: 13pts- Wakefield (10155) 12pts-Bradford (9185) 11pts-Hull KR (8709) 10pts- Hull (8297) 9pts- Leeds (8082) 8pts- Saints (8003) 7pts- Salford (7052) 6pts- Quins (7049) 5pts- Wigan (6754) 4pts- Huddersfield (6572) 3pts- Celtic (6547) 2pts- Wire (562icon_cool.gif 1pt- Catalans (550icon_cool.gif

Vs Catalans @ Stade Aime Giral: 13pts- Wire (18150) 12pts- Wigan (9490) 11pts- Hull (9800) 10pts- Hull KR (9073) 9pts- Saints (9065) 8pts- Wakefield (8755) 7pts- Salford (8327) 6pts- Quins (8324) 5pts- Cas (8150) 4pts- Leeds (7913) 3pts- Bradford (7620) 2pts- Huddersfield (7520) 1pt- Celtic- 6784

Vs Celtic @ Brewery Field: 13pts- Saints (6351) 12pts- Leeds (5997) 11pts- Hull (5272) 10pts- Wigan (5253) 9pts- Wire (3231) 8pts- Bradford (3089) 7pts- Hull KR (3015) 5.5pts- Quins & Salford (3009) 4pts- Catalans (2972) 3pts- Cas (2857) 2pts- Wakefield (2089) 1pt- Huddersfield (198icon_cool.gif

Vs Quins @ Twickenham Stoop: 13pts- Leeds (437icon_cool.gif 12pts- Saints (425icon_cool.gif 11pts- Huddersfield (3916) 10pts- Wigan (3883) 9pts- Cas (3824) 8pts- Wakefield (3612) 7pts- Bradford (3112) 6pts- Hull (3593) 5pts- Hull KR (3492) 4pts- Wire (3026) 3pts- Salford (2612) 2pts- Catalans (2539) 1pt- (2245)

Vs Huddersfield @ Galpharm: 13pts- Leeds (11593) 12pts- Saints (1133icon_cool.gif 11pts- Hull (10459) 10pts- Wigan (898icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (7982) 8pts- Wakefield (7846) 7pts- Wire (7107) 6pts- Salford (6903) 5pts- (6356) 4pts- Celtic (6407) 3pts- Hull KR- (6346) 2pts- Cas- (6010) 1pt- Catalans (5823)

Vs Hull @ KC Stadium: 13pts- Hull KR (22332) 12pts- Quins (15592) 11pts- Wigan (14523) 10pts- Cas (1402icon_cool.gif 9pts- Catalans (12482) 8pts- Saints (12009) 7pts- Wakefield (11975) 6pts- Leeds (11780) 5pts- Salford (1121icon_cool.gif 4pts- Huddersfield (11191) 3pts- Wire (10997) 2pts- Bradford (10412) 1pt- Celtic (10397)

Vs Hull KR @ Craven Park: 13pts- Hull (9450) 12pts- Wakefield (903icon_cool.gif 11pts- Wigan (9007) 10pts- Saints 8976) 9pts- Huddersfield (8731) 8pts- Leeds (8623) 7pts- Wire (8579) 6pts- Bradford (8026) 5pts- Catalans (8115) 3.5pts- Cas & Salford (8104) 2pts- Celtic (8046) 1pt- Quins (7874)

Vs Leeds @ Headingley: 13pts- Saints (19997) 12pts- Bradford- 17824 11pts- Wigan (17667) 10pts- Cas (16931) 9pts- Hull KR (16192) 8pts- hull (15929) 7pts- Wakefield (15643) 6pts- Huddersfield (14934) 5pts- Celtic (14827) 4pts- Salford (14381) 3pts- Quins (13912) 2pts- Catalans (13425) 1pt- Wire (13386)

Vs Salford @ The Willows: 13pts- Wigan- (7016) 12pts- Wire (6150) 11pts- Leeds (6101) 10pts- Saints (480icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (4383) 8pts- Hull KR (4222) 7pts- Hull (4165) 6pts- Celtic (4026) 5pts- Huddersfield (3721) 4pts- Quins (3367) 3pts- (3487) 2pts- Catalans (3475) 1pt- Wakefield (3151)

Vs Saints @ Knowsley Road: 13pts- Wire (17009) 12pts- Wigan (15563) 11pts- Leeds (13996) 10pts- Hull (13684) 9pts- Hull KR (11830) 8pts- Bradford (11039) 7pts- Salford (9723) 6pts- Cas (9680) 5pts- Quins (9359) 4pts- Huddersfield (870icon_cool.gif 3pts- Celtic (8684) 2pts- Wakefield (8651) 1pt- Catalans (826icon_cool.gif

Vs Wakefield @ Belle Vue: 13pts- Cas (8371) 12pts- Celtic (7893) 11pts- Salford (657icon_cool.gif 10pts- Bradford (6516) 9pts- Leeds (6425) 8pts- Hull KR (632icon_cool.gif 7pts- Saints (603icon_cool.gif 6pts- Wigan (5521) 4pts- Quins (5079) 3pts- Huddersfield (5037) 2pts- Catalans (4807) 1pt- Hull (4721)

Vs Warrington @ HJ: 13pts- Saints (12075) 12pts- Wigan (1071icon_cool.gif 11pts- Leeds (9863) 10pts- Bradford (9606) 9pts- Hull (9170) 8pts- Salford (890icon_cool.gif 7pts- Wakefield (8681) 6pts- Hull KR (8457) 5pts- Cas (8202) 4pts- Quins (8010) 3pts- Huddersfield (8007) 2pts- (7947) 1pt- (7854)

Vs Wigan @ JJB: 13pts- Saints (22232) 12pts- Leeds (20295) 11pts- Quins (14977) 10pts- Wakefield (14377) 9pts- Wire (13452) 8pts- Hull KR (13415) 7pts- Bradford (1258icon_cool.gif 6pts- Hull (12491) 5pts- Celtic (12731) 4pts- Cas (12079) 3pts- Huddersfield (11760) 2pts- Salford (11550) 1pt- Catalans (11543)

When you add up all of the points each team got for last season, you get:

1. Saints- 138pts
2. Leeds- 132pts
3. Wigan- 131pts
4. Hull- 114pts
5. Hull KR- 109pts
6. Bradford- 103pts
7. Wire- 91pts
8. Wakefield- 90pts
9. Cas- 80.5pts
10. Salford- 73pts
11. Quins- 68.5pts
12. Huddersfield- 64pts
13. Celtic- 45pts
14. Catalans- 35pts

Surprises for me are Saints at the top and Wire only on a par with Wakefield.
Not, it seems.

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A61490793

Shamelessly ripped from the 606 messageboard and "Wolfman Kenny" who has basically ranked each attendance by ground and allocated points 13-1 to away support. Obviously the methodology is subjective and there are match-specific factors to take account of, but thought it was interesting.

Vs Bradford @ Odsal: 13pts- Leeds (14554) 12pts- Hull KR (12141) 11pts- Hull (11327) 10pts- Saints (10599) 9pts- Huddersfield (10186) 8pts- Wigan (9487) 7pts- Cas (8971) 6pts- Wire (8643) 5pts- Wakefield (8387) 4pts- Salford (8167) 3pts- Catalans (7919) 2pts- Quins (7813) 1pt- Celtic (7602)

Vs Cas @ The Jungle: 13pts- Wakefield (10155) 12pts-Bradford (9185) 11pts-Hull KR (8709) 10pts- Hull (8297) 9pts- Leeds (8082) 8pts- Saints (8003) 7pts- Salford (7052) 6pts- Quins (7049) 5pts- Wigan (6754) 4pts- Huddersfield (6572) 3pts- Celtic (6547) 2pts- Wire (562icon_cool.gif 1pt- Catalans (550icon_cool.gif

Vs Catalans @ Stade Aime Giral: 13pts- Wire (18150) 12pts- Wigan (9490) 11pts- Hull (9800) 10pts- Hull KR (9073) 9pts- Saints (9065) 8pts- Wakefield (8755) 7pts- Salford (8327) 6pts- Quins (8324) 5pts- Cas (8150) 4pts- Leeds (7913) 3pts- Bradford (7620) 2pts- Huddersfield (7520) 1pt- Celtic- 6784

Vs Celtic @ Brewery Field: 13pts- Saints (6351) 12pts- Leeds (5997) 11pts- Hull (5272) 10pts- Wigan (5253) 9pts- Wire (3231) 8pts- Bradford (3089) 7pts- Hull KR (3015) 5.5pts- Quins & Salford (3009) 4pts- Catalans (2972) 3pts- Cas (2857) 2pts- Wakefield (2089) 1pt- Huddersfield (198icon_cool.gif

Vs Quins @ Twickenham Stoop: 13pts- Leeds (437icon_cool.gif 12pts- Saints (425icon_cool.gif 11pts- Huddersfield (3916) 10pts- Wigan (3883) 9pts- Cas (3824) 8pts- Wakefield (3612) 7pts- Bradford (3112) 6pts- Hull (3593) 5pts- Hull KR (3492) 4pts- Wire (3026) 3pts- Salford (2612) 2pts- Catalans (2539) 1pt- (2245)

Vs Huddersfield @ Galpharm: 13pts- Leeds (11593) 12pts- Saints (1133icon_cool.gif 11pts- Hull (10459) 10pts- Wigan (898icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (7982) 8pts- Wakefield (7846) 7pts- Wire (7107) 6pts- Salford (6903) 5pts- (6356) 4pts- Celtic (6407) 3pts- Hull KR- (6346) 2pts- Cas- (6010) 1pt- Catalans (5823)

Vs Hull @ KC Stadium: 13pts- Hull KR (22332) 12pts- Quins (15592) 11pts- Wigan (14523) 10pts- Cas (1402icon_cool.gif 9pts- Catalans (12482) 8pts- Saints (12009) 7pts- Wakefield (11975) 6pts- Leeds (11780) 5pts- Salford (1121icon_cool.gif 4pts- Huddersfield (11191) 3pts- Wire (10997) 2pts- Bradford (10412) 1pt- Celtic (10397)

Vs Hull KR @ Craven Park: 13pts- Hull (9450) 12pts- Wakefield (903icon_cool.gif 11pts- Wigan (9007) 10pts- Saints 8976) 9pts- Huddersfield (8731) 8pts- Leeds (8623) 7pts- Wire (8579) 6pts- Bradford (8026) 5pts- Catalans (8115) 3.5pts- Cas & Salford (8104) 2pts- Celtic (8046) 1pt- Quins (7874)

Vs Leeds @ Headingley: 13pts- Saints (19997) 12pts- Bradford- 17824 11pts- Wigan (17667) 10pts- Cas (16931) 9pts- Hull KR (16192) 8pts- hull (15929) 7pts- Wakefield (15643) 6pts- Huddersfield (14934) 5pts- Celtic (14827) 4pts- Salford (14381) 3pts- Quins (13912) 2pts- Catalans (13425) 1pt- Wire (13386)

Vs Salford @ The Willows: 13pts- Wigan- (7016) 12pts- Wire (6150) 11pts- Leeds (6101) 10pts- Saints (480icon_cool.gif 9pts- Bradford (4383) 8pts- Hull KR (4222) 7pts- Hull (4165) 6pts- Celtic (4026) 5pts- Huddersfield (3721) 4pts- Quins (3367) 3pts- (3487) 2pts- Catalans (3475) 1pt- Wakefield (3151)

Vs Saints @ Knowsley Road: 13pts- Wire (17009) 12pts- Wigan (15563) 11pts- Leeds (13996) 10pts- Hull (13684) 9pts- Hull KR (11830) 8pts- Bradford (11039) 7pts- Salford (9723) 6pts- Cas (9680) 5pts- Quins (9359) 4pts- Huddersfield (870icon_cool.gif 3pts- Celtic (8684) 2pts- Wakefield (8651) 1pt- Catalans (826icon_cool.gif

Vs Wakefield @ Belle Vue: 13pts- Cas (8371) 12pts- Celtic (7893) 11pts- Salford (657icon_cool.gif 10pts- Bradford (6516) 9pts- Leeds (6425) 8pts- Hull KR (632icon_cool.gif 7pts- Saints (603icon_cool.gif 6pts- Wigan (5521) 4pts- Quins (5079) 3pts- Huddersfield (5037) 2pts- Catalans (4807) 1pt- Hull (4721)

Vs Warrington @ HJ: 13pts- Saints (12075) 12pts- Wigan (1071icon_cool.gif 11pts- Leeds (9863) 10pts- Bradford (9606) 9pts- Hull (9170) 8pts- Salford (890icon_cool.gif 7pts- Wakefield (8681) 6pts- Hull KR (8457) 5pts- Cas (8202) 4pts- Quins (8010) 3pts- Huddersfield (8007) 2pts- (7947) 1pt- (7854)

Vs Wigan @ JJB: 13pts- Saints (22232) 12pts- Leeds (20295) 11pts- Quins (14977) 10pts- Wakefield (14377) 9pts- Wire (13452) 8pts- Hull KR (13415) 7pts- Bradford (1258icon_cool.gif 6pts- Hull (12491) 5pts- Celtic (12731) 4pts- Cas (12079) 3pts- Huddersfield (11760) 2pts- Salford (11550) 1pt- Catalans (11543)

When you add up all of the points each team got for last season, you get:

1. Saints- 138pts
2. Leeds- 132pts
3. Wigan- 131pts
4. Hull- 114pts
5. Hull KR- 109pts
6. Bradford- 103pts
7. Wire- 91pts
8. Wakefield- 90pts
9. Cas- 80.5pts
10. Salford- 73pts
11. Quins- 68.5pts
12. Huddersfield- 64pts
13. Celtic- 45pts
14. Catalans- 35pts

Surprises for me are Saints at the top and Wire only on a par with Wakefield.
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Meaningless pretty much. I think the quins crowd at the KC almost proves it on its own!
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Quote: Mrs Barista "Not, it seems.
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Quote: hull smallears "Meaningless pretty much. I think the quins crowd at the KC almost proves it on its own!'"

icon_lol.gif I know it's flawed, but over a season I reckon a lot of anomalies would even themselves out.
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Saints & leeds are helped by being the standard top 2 teams so even when away you get a lot more part time supporters turning up to those games.

It would be interesting to see 'Official' figures for away fans attendance. Still to finish 4th on last seasons showing is still some going.

You also have to take into account freebies given out at certain games as well as other influences.
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Supjective!!! on so many fronts.
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Quote: hullbg "Saints & leeds are helped by being the standard top 2 teams so even when away you get a lot more part time supporters turning up to those games.

It would be interesting to see 'Official' figures for away fans attendance. Still to finish 4th on last seasons showing is still some going.

You also have to take into account freebies given out at certain games as well as other influences.'"


In a nutshell. Would be totally different.
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Doesn't make any sense IMO. icon_confused.gif
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Quote: hullbg "Saints & leeds are helped by being the standard top 2 teams so even when away you get a lot more part time supporters turning up to those games.

It would be interesting to see 'Official' figures for away fans attendance. Still to finish 4th on last seasons showing is still some going.

You also have to take into account freebies given out at certain games as well as other influences.'"


I don't disagree, but when official total attendances are often disputed/ met with disbelief, the chances of getting accurate away numbers is pretty remote. icon_wink.gif
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Quote: Roofs "Doesn't make any sense IMO.
What, the answer or the scoring methodology?
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Also you need to take matchdays into consideration. Some people just cannot make lancashire for a friday night kick off. Other teams benefit from being very close to a number of clubs hence skewing the results.

All in all it is a well put together bit of research and scored well.
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Quote: Mrs Barista "What, the answer or the scoring methodology?'"


The methodology! icon_confused.gif Like someone said, Saints are one of the biggest home games of the season for many clubs, but they often bring less then several teams to CP, e.g. Wire, Wigan, Leeds, Hull (obviously) have all brought more at different points.

Just a silly thing really (which must have taken someone a lot of time to do! icon_twisted.gif ).
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Quote: Mrs Barista "What, the answer or the scoring methodology?'"

Rovers not being top. icon_wink.gif
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Quote: TKOAH "Rovers not being top.
In reality we are. icon_wink.gif icon_smile.gif

Seriously it's all a bit daft. a010.gif icon_smile.gif
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Daft way of working it out. I think both Hull and Rovers fans can be proud of their away support. There's already a minimum 45 miles on the clock before you even think about leaving Hull for an away fixture.
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SL
20:00		 Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30		 Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30		 Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00		 Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00		 Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00		 Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 20 523 264 259 32
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Hull KR 19 481 255 226 28
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 19 366 274 92 24
Salford 19 355 366 -11 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 378 304 74 17
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 19 326 503 -177 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 19 198 725 -527 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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