Just watching your game with Saint Helens and am of the opinion that referees have too much influence on the games outcome.

Fail to see how both players were deemed to have picked up yellow cards

Why were penalties not deemed sufficient.

The standard of refereeing has fallen to the lowest that I have ever known in the 60 years that I have followed Wakefield.

Absolute disgrace so far from Thaler.

I'd like to see stats for red and yellow cards overall this year vs last 2-3. It's self-perpetuating. More cards given, more players seek to invite them. Game's gone soft.

The same touch judge told him to give the first two yellows. I can understand the crusher but the Washy one was a bit mystifying.

try looking at the knee to the head which is what he was carded for

All three were correct. Crusher tackle was obvious. The washy one who started by sticking his head into him and then LMS retaliates but then washy decides to go one further by kneeing him in the head and the late challenge was silly and the ball was gone and he could have pulled out or just glanced him.

Not sure what Houghton is supposed to do with Connor and Mini come in to complete the tackle.

LMS repeatedly lashing out at Fash's head!!!!

Sin bin was originally meant for technical offences.

The penalty against Connor late on for contact with the head? There would be a penalty on 3 tackles from every set if you apply the letter of the law. Its far too much of a lottery if you are awarded a penalty like this. Likewise for offside, Hull had plenty of time near St's line, yet the St's wingers and centre are stood 2 meters in front of the try line. This dictates that the ball will not go in that direction.

Hull were unlucky today and the sin binnings were crucial.

All 3 looked justified but it's still tough having 3 players yellow carded.

Washbrook for me was the worst offender he clearly saw the red mist couldn't control his anger and with the tackle long since completed he deliberately kneed a St Helens player in the face. With Houghton already in the bin he probably cost his team a win in that moment of indiscipline.

Fair comment. We knew we didn't have the individual quality to match Saints so a win was going to have to come from effort/fight and we pushed things too far.

no problems with the sending offs, but Kelly was wiped out and nothing, watch the next few matches and you will see the same thing, knees in at the play the ball, after a try has been scored etc, and nothing done,

all 3 sin binning's a joke , games gone soft, the masi was one was ridiculous, penalty maybe, yellow, not a chance, every single last play tackle in the NRL end with a hit like that, no problem as long no shoulder charge or head high, the refs are completely spoiling the game, and fans agreeing with them sin binning's are just helping them along.

LMS has his hand on Kelly before the kick left his boot - it wasn’t late but he should of softened slightly.

The Washbrook one wasn’t just knees but actively kneeing - it was worse than the Amor sinbinning in game1 vs Cas for us so it’s not like it’s not like we haven’t been hit by it before.

Barba did exactly the same tackle a few weeks ago to prevent a try and yet everyone was raving about how good a tackle it was, Connor does exactly the same, in fact I'd say he has even less of his arm around the neck and he gets a slap by Thaler.
It's the inconsistancy of it all that pees everyone off.

I don't have many complaints with the refereeing really. I thought Masi's was harsh, slightly late, but not a shoulder charge and didn't look like any contact with the head either. Penalty sufficient. But it was needless at a time when we had just clawed our way back into the game, hopefully a lesson learned for Masi that there is a time and a place to throw your weight about and rough up the opposition, and that wasnt it.

Houghton's was a crusher. It was unfortunate and I'm not sure he could have avoided it with the players behind him, but those are yellow cards every time, you need to avoid getting in that position in the first place.

Washbrook's was deserved. There was very little in it, but again you just can't use your knees like that. When you got sin binned for exactly the same thing in the last cup game you would think a lesson might be learned, but no. He deserved it for stupidity.

A few other decisions I didn't really agree with but they were minor. The high tackle on Barba was soft and personally I wouldn't give penalties for tackles like that but you see them penalised every week. I also thought that chance we had really early when Carlos threw it on the floor was harsh. It was a pass (a scruffy pass, but still a pass) and it didn't go forward. We looked like we might score off it too.

ATEOTD we need to stop blaming the ref and address our discipline problem. Some of the cards we have had this year have not been deserved, but when you are getting them so often you have to take notice and do something about it.

6 yellow cards and a red card in this year's Challenge Cup run.

Surely that's a record?!

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