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Please put forward your nominations for the back row. we are looking at a short list of 6 to proceed to the vote

Again this is a position we have been pretty strong in over the years. I don't usually express an opinion on these threads, largely leaving it up to you but i will be very cross and frankly amazed if Bob Taylor doesn't end up in one of the positions

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Bob Taylor as you suggest should be in there. 307 appearances between the wars. Our fourth highest all time try scorer with 164. In 1925-26 he scored 32 for Hull plus 4 for England, the total of 36 being a RL record for a forward that stood for almost fifty years. He also held the club record for tries in a match with six which stood for forty seven years.

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Darling Lee Crooks.

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Stephen Kearney and Sean Ryan for me

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Mick crane if he's classed as a 2nd row. different class.

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2 of my favourites from the great 50's team Harry Markham and Bill Drake.

My dad talked about the exploits of Bob Taylor.

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Boxall , Lloyd , Divet, Crooks , Maher , Manu , Regan , Tickle & Kearney are some of my favorite players over the years in that position .

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Quote: loosemann "Stephen Kearney and Sean Ryan for me'"

Sean ryan? Jesus... the man never broke a tackle in his fc career. ..... anyways, each to there own

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Shane mcmenemy. ... underated..... does tony grimaldi count? He was class..... but willie manu has to be our shout of 2nd rower of the decade at fc, differant class that man.. i honestly though fc had seen the best of him, but since hes left, hes won a grand final and now plays in the nrl for the roosters.( probably down to fitzgibbon) .. how wrong was i......

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Of the post 2000 players i would consider Manu the best along with Kearney - but with him we are into the 'did he play for us long enough' debate again. But Manu yes, he is a great shout for consideration

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Not wanting to pre-empt the vote for loose forward but what about Knocker and Mick Crane

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Lots of choice here which means that we should really be considering those who put in a decent amount of time with the team so though I liked Rose, Muggleton, Cleal, Kearney and Fitzgibbon they miss out for that reason with me. Same applies to Ellis who is brilliant when fit but sadly that has rarely happened so far.

There were some fine servants who weren't quite international class but none the less good players like Tickle and Jon Sharp.

Taylor and Bill Drake were before my time but are obvious contenders and I'm sure there are some other worthy old timers I have neglected.

Of those I've seen it would be the young Lee Crooks in his 2nd row days and Manu.

However I have a soft spot for Keith Boxall who was Hull's main (only?) attacking threat in the mid 70's and scorer of some quite spectacular tries. I always think he suffered somewhat when representative selection came around because first he was playing for a not very good team and second his body shape was the opposite of the tall, rangy second rowers selectors liked. Still nearly 100 tries for Hull and around long enough to be part of the first climb out of the 2nd division - it was also his misfortune that as his career wound down the glory years were starting up.

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Quote: Erik the not red "
Lots of choice here which means that we should really be considering those who put in a decent amount of time with the team so though I liked Rose, Muggleton, Cleal, Kearney and Fitzgibbon they miss out for that reason with me. Same applies to Ellis who is brilliant when fit but sadly that has rarely happened so far.

There were some fine servants who weren't quite international class but none the less good players like Tickle and Jon Sharp.

Taylor and Bill Drake were before my time but are obvious contenders and I'm sure there are some other worthy old timers I have neglected.

Of those I've seen it would be the young Lee Crooks in his 2nd row days and Manu.

However I have a soft spot for Keith Boxall who was Hull's main (only?) attacking threat in the mid 70's and scorer of some quite spectacular tries. I always think he suffered somewhat when representative selection came around because first he was playing for a not very good team and second his body shape was the opposite of the tall, rangy second rowers selectors liked. Still nearly 100 tries for Hull and around long enough to be part of the first climb out of the 2nd division - it was also his misfortune that as his career wound down the glory years were starting up.'"


Agree with that completely, rhino was a class act, his go forward was fantastic and no mean tackler, that he could kick goals too was a bonus. 98 tries in just over 300 appearances even taking into account a lot of Div 2 games is no mean feat by any standard.

For me there are four automatic choices in the 13, Tommy Harris, Jack Harrison, Billy Batten and... Bob Taylor.
Outlandish freak of a man, he was a Greg Inglis, Wayne Pearce and Gordon Tallis rolled into one, aside from kicking the guy had it all. Scored 12 tries in 13 rep matches as well as his well known 164 tries in 307 appearances at club level.

As for the other second row, it's tough, very tough. But on balance I'd have to go with Lee Crooks, his craft, passing, indeed his pace, goal kicking and tenacious attitude was a stand out, his unflinching sublime offload in the GB v Australia match in '86(?) where he gets absolutely crunched whence feeding his winger (whom then passes inside to schoey to score) typified his abilities.

It's very close between Drake, Manu, Kearney and Rhino, on reliability and 100% every game, Boxall takes third spot for me, Manu/Drake next then Kearney.
No room for Lloyd, kicker extraordinaire but lacking in other areas, Rose was another crunching tackler that was one of those hard men from the 70s/80s but just doesn't do enough for me as much as I loved his out wide runs and big hits.

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