So after years of been served up rubbish abject performances. Have to say with the squad we have we are at least competitive in every game!

We've lost a few and the league position probably doesn't fill people with confidence but we aren't far off. The squad on paper isn't great I'm happy with where we're at. Heading in the right direction. Give this team and coach a bit of backing & a few quality signings & we'll be top 4

i'll go along with that - certainly more entertaing to watch than last year. Need a little patience, but don't think many on here will see it that way.

We're not even close to top four. Stop kidding yourself.

Sadly he 's right.

We've always been competitive though, this season is no different. For years now we have been a side that is really tough to beat, but ultimately lacks that winning mentality.

Minus 5 points compared to the same fixtures last season I think.

can't see any way we'll make the 8 this year

"but ultimately lacks that winning mentality"

I believe we have the skills and ability as a team, but we really do lack that winning mental attitude. I think had we had an early handbag fight, we would have raised our game.

Ian Smith was your most competitive player

Bloody hell. That's awful.

I honestly thought the score flattered you considerably.

I admire Radford's honesty and passion but win/lose/crisis meeting/ win/ praise/ lose crisis meeting/ drop a player/pick a player....it's the way a fan would coach.

I can't disagree with a word of that. On the balance of play Rovers by 10+ would have been a fair reflection. That's probably why there hasn't been much comment about the charge down, because we never deserved a point anyway.

And you've summed up Radford perfectly too. I just don't understand him, it's not just something a fan would do, it's something a bipolar fan would do.

Ffs Radford pick your best 17 players, and unless we have injuries or players are badly out of form, stick with it. And I'll give you a clue, Heremaia is in it and Yeaman is not.

I fully agree on the first point. Radford's the youngest coach in SL so clearly has much to learn. I think our pack is OK and the backs, if Sa comes and plays centre, OK too. But he's got too little quality available in the halves. We don't need a superstar. Just someone that can manage a game, spot opportunities, take control. 7 years on, we're no closer to it.

Catalans W (last season W)
Saints L (D)
Warrington L (W)
Bradford W (W)
Cas L (L)
Widnes L (W)
Salford W (W)
Hudds W (L)
Rovers L (W)

A chance to pull it back somewhat with Wakefield and Wigan to come at home over the next few weeks, both of which beat us at the KC last year.

I'm not really buying the halves thing, that's not were the game was lost last night. Our kicking game was no worse than Rovers, and we carved out some good chances considering our pack got beaten up. I actually thought the majority of problems stemmed from Houghton. His passing from dummy half reminded me of an under 8s game where the DH picks the ball up then everyone stands still for a few seconds whilst he decides who to pass to. This coupled with the skinny 10 the ref was keeping made it very hard for our forwards to get us going, and the knock on effect of that is the halves are having to play off the back foot.

I don't like to admit it, but Josh Hodgson is a far superior hooker to Danny Houghton.