And people still want Horne and Azza as our halves!
Horne is just garbage and Azza is never a 7.

I could have told you two years ago that they don't work together.

Not me you need to be telling. Rankin was brought in to play six and after two games he moves him. Horne and Azza have played together numerous of times together and barely ever linked up well yet they still persist with them. Azza looks lively but doesn't create much. Horne just doesn't create anything at all.

After a decent first couple of games Horne has done nothing of note. Azza is wasted in the halves. Should have persisted with Rankin, maybe tried Miller - who will now be woefully short of match practice if we do turn to him.

Long season ahead.

Hull FC urgently need to sort the HB positions out

Waste of time Horne playing today . I'll still stand by what I said about Horne 2 years ago , he has 1 good game in 4/5 games which is no good to us or any team hoping to challenge for trophys .

The problem is Radford never gave Miller a chance at pre season. This was his biggest mistake. Horne is too old and Azza is not a 7. Should of given Rankin and Miller a shot straight from the beginning. That is the whole point of him being here!

I'd just bite the bullet and tell miller and rankn your the halves for the rest of the season, unless injured can't be any worse,
Then I'd drop yeaman and play Horne at centre at least he can pass the ball backwards and to hands.
Then bring either Saul or if fit McDonald in at full back.
Team is lacking leadership and composure.
Can't be any worse then what we witnessed today

Our best pivot today was Westerman, and he wasn't as good as he has been this year.

We've got to end the Horne/Heremaia partnership. Today it was woeful.
Heremaia needs to come off the bench, as has been said many times.

Why not give Miller a go now? I'm not convinced by him but he needs an extended run. If he's no good, then at least we tried.

I've seen diappointing losses before at the KC, but at no point at all did I think "We'll nick this". I don't know why Widnes bothered with the drop goal, it's not as if we were going to score twice!

Chucking Miller in for his first game, behind our depleted pack would have been suicidal.

Before the game I'd have probably agreed, but he can't possibly have been any worse.

well, I can't say I disagree, but that's hindsight for you! At least we can't get (much) worse

Can understand why he didn't gamble on Miller today given the lack of forwards and the conditions...but he has to get his chance on Friday. If he doesn't we need to pay him off and move on. Paying him to sit in the stand is doing nobody any good.

Agree with this. If he isn't selected on Friday I don't know when he will be.