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When Pearson took over I think he mentioned a 3 year plan to get where he wanted to be. If that's right then we are two years into it. I suggest seeing as how it's his money and his vision we show a little more patience and let him get on with it.
It's been a poor end to the season fr sure but after 40 yrs of following FC that doesn't really come as a shock. We have been in much darker places in the past.
No matter how many on here profess to know who gets what, who thinks what or who's doing what( all of if being pure guesswork) we need to trust in Pearsons' judgement. The man has been a success in all his past ventures. He is his own man I guess.
We need to stop telling everyone just how good we are going to be before we get there. We need to just quieten down a little and see.
If the plan works then we can shout as loud as we like.
We just set ourselves up time and again by jumping the gun.
While we are all upset things have conspired against us in certain aspects throughout the season.
We need to put this behind us and move on together forwards with a little less noise and a lot more intent.
We need to trust in his judgement for now.
I know the muppets with their 'inside contacts' will come on and rip this to bits but its just the thoughts of a committed FC fan after a terrible night for my club.
But one day hopefully not to far away Adam Pearson will realise his dream and we will scream it out

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you are having a laugh.

Fans will not hand over money to watch that same crap again and again and again.

Too much dead wood in that team last night, and they are clearly not motivated to perform.

For each of the (rare) good performances there have been two bad ones. That is the coaches fault.

For every coach who turns it around given time there are plenty of mediocre ones who don't.

Time to change, as cannot afford not to.

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I will give you a three year plan. Most of the time when a plan comes together like this you see gradual improvement. So lets see what improvement we have made.
Take the Leeds play off game from two years ago as a line in the stand. That was the performance that prompted AP to say never again. That was when if he was wavering AP decided to gt rid of Agar.
Since then we have had almost an entirely new team.
We have blooded some great youngsters. More than Agar under Kaff ever did. That is a positive. Crooks, Lineham, Shaul, Green developing well. But that for me is the end of the positives.
Gentle promised the difference between good and bad would be less. Well this season has seen us beat Wire away and on neutral ground. We have had good runs of victories, some fortuitous (Magic weekend) some excellent.
We got to Wembley with two of the best guttsy performances we have seen for a while. Cats away was good, Wire in the semi was good. But its the dross that glosses over all of that.
We fail to execute the basics. Basics like running, passing and catching. These should be bread and butter stuff to full time pros. I could handle those if we played like Wire, a good expansive entertaining style of rugby, but we don't. We have gone way back to basics, because the personel we have are incapable of anything expansive.
I really could go on.
But....

A three year plan should have us feeling that a few rough spots can be ironed out and we will be close to the real deal in 2014. Can you see that happening. Even when I take away the raw emotion of last night, I can not see anything other than a postion between 10th and 6th next year.
After almost 4 decades of supporting the club, I have seen highs and many many lows, but patience when its costing a fortune to watch and follow the club is something I am running out of. The masterplan in my honest opinion is way off track.

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Quote: TrevLovesJanice "you are having a laugh.

Fans will not hand over money to watch that same crap again and again and again.

Too much dead wood in that team last night, and they are clearly not motivated to perform.

For each of the (rare) good performances there have been two bad ones. That is the coaches fault.

For every coach who turns it around given time there are plenty of mediocre ones who don't.

Time to change, as cannot afford not to.'"


Fans of all clubs of all sports will hand over money, thats what fans do.

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Quote: Graham Richards "I will give you a three year plan. Most of the time when a plan comes together like this you see gradual improvement. So lets see what improvement we have made.
Take the Leeds play off game from two years ago as a line in the stand. That was the performance that prompted AP to say never again. That was when if he was wavering AP decided to gt rid of Agar.
Since then we have had almost an entirely new team.
We have blooded some great youngsters. More than Agar under Kaff ever did. That is a positive. Crooks, Lineham, Shaul, Green developing well. But that for me is the end of the positives.
Gentle promised the difference between good and bad would be less. Well this season has seen us beat Wire away and on neutral ground. We have had good runs of victories, some fortuitous (Magic weekend) some excellent.
We got to Wembley with two of the best guttsy performances we have seen for a while. Cats away was good, Wire in the semi was good. But its the dross that glosses over all of that.
We fail to execute the basics. Basics like running, passing and catching. These should be bread and butter stuff to full time pros. I could handle those if we played like Wire, a good expansive entertaining style of rugby, but we don't. We have gone way back to basics, because the personel we have are incapable of anything expansive.
I really could go on.
But....

A three year plan should have us feeling that a few rough spots can be ironed out and we will be close to the real deal in 2014. Can you see that happening. Even when I take away the raw emotion of last night, I can not see anything other than a postion between 10th and 6th next year.
After almost 4 decades of supporting the club, I have seen highs and many many lows, but patience when its costing a fortune to watch and follow the club is something I am running out of. The masterplan in my honest opinion is way off track.'"



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I agree with Graham Richards too. We constantly see the centre/second row overrun the play because the timing is shocking. Also we pass the ball from side to side so slowly that the defence are already on us. Not only that, the second rowers/centres are just jogging, there is nothing done at pace, so even if they do get the ball the have absolutely no momentum to burst through tackles

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Me too, sums it all up for me, by someone who feels the same pain as I do.

Time to be brave, time to change.

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Quote: TrevLovesJanice "Me too, sums it all up for me, by someone who feels the same pain as I do.

Time to be brave, time to change.'"


Does that mean you are going to KR?

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Does anyone seriously expect us to be challenging for a top 4 place next season? I think the three year plan might just need to be extended a bit.

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Quote: Graham Richards "I will give you a three year plan. Most of the time when a plan comes together like this you see gradual improvement. So lets see what improvement we have made.
Take the Leeds play off game from two years ago as a line in the stand. That was the performance that prompted AP to say never again. That was when if he was wavering AP decided to gt rid of Agar.
Since then we have had almost an entirely new team.
We have blooded some great youngsters. More than Agar under Kaff ever did. That is a positive. Crooks, Lineham, Shaul, Green developing well. But that for me is the end of the positives.
Gentle promised the difference between good and bad would be less. Well this season has seen us beat Wire away and on neutral ground. We have had good runs of victories, some fortuitous (Magic weekend) some excellent.
We got to Wembley with two of the best guttsy performances we have seen for a while. Cats away was good, Wire in the semi was good. But its the dross that glosses over all of that.
We fail to execute the basics. Basics like running, passing and catching. These should be bread and butter stuff to full time pros. I could handle those if we played like Wire, a good expansive entertaining style of rugby, but we don't. We have gone way back to basics, because the personel we have are incapable of anything expansive.
I really could go on.
But....

A three year plan should have us feeling that a few rough spots can be ironed out and we will be close to the real deal in 2014. Can you see that happening. Even when I take away the raw emotion of last night, I can not see anything other than a postion between 10th and 6th next year.
After almost 4 decades of supporting the club, I have seen highs and many many lows, but patience when its costing a fortune to watch and follow the club is something I am running out of. The masterplan in my honest opinion is way off track.'"


Absolutely spot on!! I've emailed AP this morning, along the same lines. The thing that is the most frustrating for me is that we struggle on the basics, we are not capable of passing a ball, supporting the ball carrier or running at any sort of angle, our play of the ball is the slowest in the competition by far.

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Quote: Suzie "Absolutely spot on!! I've emailed AP this morning, along the same lines. The thing that is the most frustrating for me is that we struggle on the basics, we are not capable of passing a ball, supporting the ball carrier or running at any sort of angle, our play of the ball is the slowest in the competition by far.'"


Well said, if we can't actually do the SIMPLE things what hope do we have ?

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Guys, hope you dont mind me putting my twopenneth in on this but this time last year we had just been spanked by you lot in the play-offs, our terrible season over and not a minute too soon for some of us. We finished 7th, had a squad of players who didnt want to be in the same room together, we'd sacked our coach and appointed an unproven bloke to take over, we had no big name signing to look forward to and there was an air of doom and gloom amongst us giants fans. Fast forward 12 months and we've had the best season this club has witnessed for many, many years and its not over yet and the buzz around at the moment is unbelievable !

I believe Hull FC and Huddersfield are similar clubs from coming into SL together and have both threatened at times, more than any others, to break the mantle of the big clubs, with our challenge cup final apperances, your grand final and now us winning the LLS, 12 months ago we were feeling how a lot of you are feeling right now judging by some of these posts so my message is you never know what next year could bring, you could 'do a giants' and be sitting pretty in 2014.......write this year off, stay positive, come back next year in hope rather than thinking here we go again but more importantly what myself and about 5000 other giants fans did this year - KEEP THE FAITH !!

All the best guys, see you next season.

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Quote: Graham Richards "I will give you a three year plan. Most of the time when a plan comes together like this you see gradual improvement. So lets see what improvement we have made.
Take the Leeds play off game from two years ago as a line in the stand. That was the performance that prompted AP to say never again. That was when if he was wavering AP decided to gt rid of Agar.
Since then we have had almost an entirely new team.
We have blooded some great youngsters. More than Agar under Kaff ever did. That is a positive. Crooks, Lineham, Shaul, Green developing well. But that for me is the end of the positives.
Gentle promised the difference between good and bad would be less. Well this season has seen us beat Wire away and on neutral ground. We have had good runs of victories, some fortuitous (Magic weekend) some excellent.
We got to Wembley with two of the best guttsy performances we have seen for a while. Cats away was good, Wire in the semi was good. But its the dross that glosses over all of that.
We fail to execute the basics. Basics like running, passing and catching. These should be bread and butter stuff to full time pros. I could handle those if we played like Wire, a good expansive entertaining style of rugby, but we don't. We have gone way back to basics, because the personel we have are incapable of anything expansive.
I really could go on.
But....

A three year plan should have us feeling that a few rough spots can be ironed out and we will be close to the real deal in 2014. Can you see that happening. Even when I take away the raw emotion of last night, I can not see anything other than a postion between 10th and 6th next year.
After almost 4 decades of supporting the club, I have seen highs and many many lows, but patience when its costing a fortune to watch and follow the club is something I am running out of. The masterplan in my honest opinion is way off track.'"


Nail on head moment. Great post.

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Quote: Rock God X "Does anyone seriously expect us to be challenging for a top 4 place next season? I think the three year plan might just need to be extended a bit.'"

Shouldn't be difficult since it was made up out of whole cloth in the first place.

AFAIK neither Pearson nor anyone else at the club has put a definite timescale on when we should be challenging the top 4.

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