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| Ok the situation is that a Hull player puts a kick in that is charged down by a Wire player. The ball falls to another Wire player is stood in front of the player that charged the ball down. He is then tackled by a Hull player. The result today was a penalty to Wire. So in what circumstances is that a penalty to Wire?
The only possible explanation I can think of is that Mr Ganson decided it wasn't a charge down and the Hull tackler was in front of the kicker and therefore didnt give the receiving (secondary) Wire player 10 meters. Would this be correct or does the first touch by the Wire player (even though not a charge down) negate the offside?
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| Ganson uses his own rules. They may or may not coincide with the official versions.
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| It appears that Ganson decided that the first offence was caused the the Hull player being within the 10 metres of the Warrington player who charged the ball down. He must've decided that being within the 10 interfered with the way the Wire player played at the ball.
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| He's a %^#^ing nob, simples
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| made numerous decisions today, mostly wrong ones, for both teams, yet his linesmen were just as inept, the only official to come out with a credit was the in-goal touchjudge who over ruled both ganson and the linesman more than once!
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| Quote: cod'ead "It appears that Ganson decided that the first offence was caused the the Hull player being within the 10 metres of the Warrington player who charged the ball down. He must've decided that being within the 10 interfered with the way the Wire player played at the ball.'"
He wasn't within 10 meters of the player that charged the ball down. He was within 10 meters of the secondary Wire player that then caught the charge down? He only gave the penalty after the secondary Wire player was tackled.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "He wasn't within 10 meters of the player that charged the ball down. He was within 10 meters of the secondary Wire player that then caught the charge down? He only gave the penalty after the secondary Wire player was tackled.'"
Then he was clearly wrong.
The Hull player in front of the kicker is "out of play" until the ball is touched by a Wire player, providing he is not within 10m of the Wire player. Once the Wire player plays at the ball, it's then "all on". If the second Wire player was in front of the one who made first contact, he's clearly in an offside position and should be penalised.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Then he was clearly wrong.
The Hull player in front of the kicker is "out of play" until the ball is touched by a Wire player, providing he is not within 10m of the Wire player. Once the Wire player plays at the ball, it's then "all on". If the second Wire player was in front of the one who made first contact, he's clearly in an offside position and should be penalised.'"
But if he decided the first Wire player to touch the ball wasn't a charge down would the Hull player still be allowed to get involved?
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| i like the rule ganson adopted whereby when the ball came loose in a 2 man tackle when we had the ball it was a knock on, and when warrington had the ball it was a penalty
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| Quote: Robbo4 "But if he decided the first Wire player to touch the ball wasn't a charge down would the Hull player still be allowed to get involved?'"
Charge down or not, if the Hull player was outside the 10m of the Wire player, as soon as the wire player touches the ball (unless it's a clean catch), it's game on
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| Quote: cod'ead "Charge down or not, if the Hull player was outside the 10m of the Wire player, as soon as the wire player touches the ball (unless it's a clean catch), it's game on'"
It's a mystery then. Hopefully someone else saw something I didnt that will explain it then.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "It's a mystery then. Hopefully someone else saw something I didnt that will explain it then.'"
Probably just Ganson dropping a bollock and not admitting to it.
Not the first time and certainly won't be the last
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| Quote: the artist "i like the rule ganson adopted whereby when the ball came loose in a 2 man tackle when we had the ball it was a knock on, and when warrington had the ball it was a penalty'"
I noticed that too. He was unfailingly consistent with it as well.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Ok the situation is that a Hull player puts a kick in that is charged down by a Wire player. The ball falls to another Wire player is stood in front of the player that charged the ball down. He is then tackled by a Hull player. The result today was a penalty to Wire. So in what circumstances is that a penalty to Wire?
The only possible explanation I can think of is that Mr Ganson decided it wasn't a charge down and the Hull tackler was in front of the kicker and therefore didnt give the receiving (secondary) Wire player 10 meters. Would this be correct or does the first touch by the Wire player (even though not a charge down) negate the offside?'"
Maybe wrong but didn't think the 10 meter rule came into play from a charge down, please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.
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| Quote: number 6 "made numerous decisions today, mostly wrong ones, for both teams, yet his linesmen were just as inept, the only official to come out with a credit was the in-goal touchjudge who over ruled both ganson and the linesman more than once!'"
The in goal judge doesn't over rule anybody, Ganson is the only one making decisions on the advice of the other officials. Much like when he payed no attention to the TJ and awarded you a try
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