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| I was just having a browse through the Leeds boards trying to gauge their opinions on the outcome of the up and coming cc game against ourselves, especially after our dismal performance on Fri, when i stumbled across a Ryan Hall thread and a discussion which had developed on there comparing Ryan to Tom and who was the current No1 English winger.
Now the Leeds guys were siding with Ryan Hall, as naturally you would expect them too, however they were doing so without really backing or justifying their argument or opinions, apart from the odd comment of "Well that (Fridays Game) puts that argument to bed then". Quite....
Some one then posted the attached link with stats directly comparing the two over the 2011 season. Now i know stats dont necessarily represent iron clad evidence that one player is better or worse then another, but generally they can back up peoples thoughts and are an objective view is which every player is rated the same way allowing comparisons of people in the same position.
Now in my opinion the stats suggest that Tom is AT LEAST Ryan Halls equal, based on averages per games played etc which is then backed up with the slightly biased fact that I get to have the pleasure of watching Tom week in week out at the KC.
rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?hs1
Funnily enough, after the link was posted on the Leeds board the debate quietened right down....
Now i know which i would rather have if it was a direct toss up between the two, but what are other peoples thoughts on it based on what they have seen of the two?....
As it happens i would quite like the see them both in a Hull shirt, particularly after seeing Halls kick returns against us on Friday!
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| I think you would struggle to find many Leeds fan who would think hall is better or worse than briscoe. They are both good sl wingers with different attributes.
Hall and briscoe are probably England's best wingers. I would love briscoe at Leeds as a centre or winger
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| Some interesting threads on the Leeds board
I wonder how many on here are hoping they can comment on Keith's thread next Sunday night, I remember most writing us off against Leeds in 2005 especially the arrogant Leeds fans...
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Some interesting threads on the Leeds board
Hmmm ironc post from you here pal as the pre game chat before Friday was all you lot in the Leeds away thread! Leeds fear us, we will beat them twice, they have nothing! So on and so on. Nobody is more awear than our own fans that Leeds have some big issues to resolve.
If you beat us big wow! We are both crap and poorly coached! I'm not concerned with Leeds results if I'm honest. I'm far more interested in the club getting back on the right track.
Here is a fact you have no chance of winning the cup even if you beat us. so really losing next week will do either team a favour in having a bit more energy to make the 8 which again is a waste of time as there is no chance of you winning the GF. Leeds have a bit more chance but not a lot.
That's not arrogance that's honesty.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Hmmm ironc post from you here pal as the pre game chat before Friday was all you lot in the Leeds away thread! Leeds fear us, we will beat them twice, they have nothing! So on and so on. Nobody is more awear than our own fans that Leeds have some big issues to resolve.
If you beat us big wow! We are both crap and poorly coached! I'm not concerned with Leeds results if I'm honest. I'm far more interested in the club getting back on ths right track.
Here is a fact you have no chance of winning the cup even if you beat us. so really losing next week will do either team a favour in having a bit more energy to make the 8 which again is a waste of time as there is no chance of you winning the GF. Leeds have a bit more chance but not a lot.
That's not arrogance that's honesty.'"
A. I am not your pal.
B. Show the post where is says Leeds fear us.
C.Are you Mystic Meg.
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| I doubt there would be a coach in SL (or world rugby) who would sign hall in preference to briscoe
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "A. I am not your pal.
B. Show the post where is says Leeds fear us.
C.Are you Mystic Meg.'"
A: on these boards when someone calls you pal it's because their not your mate
B: I made reference to hull fans not you personally
C: It wouldn't matter if I was mystic meg as there are no psychics just charlatans.
I've just been honest pal but you keep kidding yourself.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "A
Where is the post which you claim it was said 'Leeds fear us' ?
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I doubt there would be a coach in SL (or world rugby) who would sign hall in preference to briscoe'"
Maybe so
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| Quote: sgtwilko "A
I agree, pal. Both sides are shat. Only difference is we're used to it and accept it (any comments to the contrary are bluster)
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Where is the post which you claim it was said 'Leeds fear us' ?'"
Quote: berrigans bitch "Let's smash these Leeds Whinos Ba5tards!!! Hit um hard hit um fast!! Not just Friday but next Sunday 2!!..
Can't stand there fans , think they have the god given right to win everything... The wheels are falling off now!! There reign is over, the fans are panicking!
They fear us! FACT!
Let's fooooking smash um!!!!!'"
There ya go! What tool this fella is.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "There ya go! What tool this fella is.'"
I will give you that one and offer my apologies....for the record the same guy put a thread up yesterday claiming he was booking his Wembley tickets, I think he is on heroin..
However you will agree that most on the thread did not show this kind of arrogance. We accepted we are cr@p several years ago, Friday will be interesting as now you lot are cr@p as well.
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| Quote: BillyRhino "Belated congratulations on your 1 point win!
The SL records do not lie, you have dominated us for years, however the difference is you are now as cr@p as us. It will be easier for you not to look at the past when you were a decent outfit as this will just make your future more painful.
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I agree, pal. Both sides are shat. Only difference is we're used to it and accept it (any comments to the contrary are bluster)'"
I would agree with that. I would say Leeds have the talent to be in the mix for trophies but letting cross and burgess go and having Amor on loan is another massive fail(who should have played as people like Kirke getting a game infront of them is a joke).
I think you carry a few more than us who are not fit to wear the shirt but we both have em and obviously the fooking shocking coaching which is the real problem.
I think agar and mac are both good people with good intentions but are just not up to the task
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