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After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job

Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote: PaulDobbs "After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job

Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"


I would have settled for a fecking game plan on Saturday after spening hundreds of pounds getting to Scotland..but he ho Agars the man icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: PaulDobbs "After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job

Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"


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Quote: PaulDobbs "After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job

Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"


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Quote: PaulDobbs "After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job

Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"


Jesus, is that the definition of success these days?

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Jesus, is that the definition of success these days?'"
For some maybe. For me, i'm happy with 6 at this point in the year, just thought we would of had to of been more consistent to get it. And after seeing a few good performances this season i honestly thought we were top 4 bound icon_sad.gif

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Why should everyone get behind agar ?.
I like quite a few others are fed up of wasting good money just to watch rubbish, I wouldn't mind if we were playing exciting rugby and losing.
But our game plan is to bore the opposition in to submission.
Quite frankly i,ve had enough, especially when money could be better spent.

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Quote: Worksop FC "Why should everyone get behind agar ?.
I like quite a few others are fed up of wasting good money just to watch rubbish, I wouldn't mind if we were playing exciting rugby and losing.
But our game plan is to bore the opposition in to submission.
Quite frankly i,ve had enough, especially when money could be better spent.'"

Well said , we have had agar for two years and we gone no where , there is no management in agar - no gameplay , low fitness levels . I don't see anychange from last year at all its the same rugby with no ideas .

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Quote: PaulDobbs "After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job

Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"


You are most likely a wind up merchant however assuming you are not. Ponder on these points

1, Do you expect a current player to turn around and slate his coach?
2, Do you expect a current player to jeopordise(SP) contract with the club over pub talk?

As for supporting Agar till the end of the month, we have 2 of the "easier" fixtures coming up against a very poor Catalan side and a poor Cas side who went out of the cup to Barrow and have only won 5 games out of 13 (Including 2 against Catalans.) He has every chance coming away with 2 wins, will that suddenly make him a great coach?

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Quote: hullbg "You are most likely a wind up merchant however assuming you are not. Ponder on these points

1, Do you expect a current player to turn around and slate his coach?
2, Do you expect a current player to jeopordise(SP) contract with the club over pub talk?

As for supporting Agar till the end of the month, we have 2 of the "easier" fixtures coming up against a very poor Catalan side and a poor Cas side who went out of the cup to Barrow and have only won 5 games out of 13 (Including 2 against Catalans.) He has every chance coming away with 2 wins, will that suddenly make him a great coach?'"


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