So with York Acorn coming up at the weekend, what kind of side do you expect us to put out? Can see it being a young side but with some bigger forwards as protection for the kids. Aydin will surely play as he missed yesterday, and people like Gardiner and Fash Getting my tickets tomorrow, kids for free is great. I'm guessing we can sit or stand wherever?

Can see it been a mixture of our better youngsters and fringe players, something like Moy Briscoe Westerman Hardaker Barron Kemp Cust Fash Balmforth Aydin Lane Jebson Gardiner Salaibo Hutchinson Kirby Sao Or something similar it would have been an ideal game for the likes of Charles, Laidlaw and Litten to get going but unfortunately injury has ended that, I just hope it goes better than our last trip to Fev where we had about 4 long term injuries and God knows how many cards.

Everyone not injured has to play assuming we play our best 17 They have cobwebs and they also need to practice that second half more ! Sorry for York but we need to practice and practice hard I expect 90-0 win

[quote="Tarquin Fuego":1ww1pi8g]Everyone not injured has to play assuming we play our best 17 They have cobwebs and they also need to practice that second half more ! Sorry for York but we need to practice and practice hard I expect 90-0 win[/quote:1ww1pi8g] I just don't see what meaningful practice and fitness they are going to get playing against amateur opposition. For me it's just about getting through it without injuries. I would look at the squad and say, which players can we not afford to be without for the start of the season. Those guys wouldn't play. There is no point. Moy Martin Westerman Briscoe Barron Cust Kemp Sao Balmforth Aydin Lane Jebson Gardiner Salabio Fash Hutchison Kirby A smattering of first teamers to show respect to York Acorn and the competition, another chance for a few of the youngsters to make an impact, and guys like Asiata, Rapana and Sezer wrapped in cotton wool. Even with that team I would expect to be winning by at least 80.

It's unfortunate we drew the amateur team. We'd get a lot more out of a tougher game against a championship team

I'd be tempted to run with our first choice spine. We sounded clunky against Cas

[quote="mwindass":xwwuhui4]I'd be tempted to run with our first choice spine. We sounded clunky against Cas[/quote:xwwuhui4] Again, I'm just not sure what we would gain by running in tries at will that we couldn't just get from opposed training.

The likes of Ese'ese, Rapana, Cartwright and Asiata aren't worth risking for me. Could understand the reasoning behind playing Cust and Sezer together for some more valuable game time, with Callum Kemp on the bench to come on for 30 mins or so. Moy Barron Hardaker Westerman Briscoe Cust Sezer Aydin Balmforth Salabio Holmes Lane Fash Gardiner Sao Hutchinson C. Kemp You'd like to think they'd be enough there to get a more than convincing win.

[quote="HU8HFC":dq13kbx1]The likes of Ese'ese, Rapana, Cartwright and Asiata aren't worth risking for me. Could understand the reasoning behind playing Cust and Sezer together for some more valuable game time, with Callum Kemp on the bench to come on for 30 mins or so. Moy Barron Hardaker Westerman Briscoe Cust Sezer Aydin Balmforth Salabio Holmes Lane Fash Gardiner Sao Hutchinson C. Kemp You'd like to think they'd be enough there to get a more than convincing win.[/quote:dq13kbx1] Would tend to agree, question is do you risk either Sezer or Cust for them to get some more time on the field in a game situation? As no disrespect but would there be any more benefit from doing that against York Acorn compared to say an opposed game at training?

According to this [url:8qkj668x]https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/john-cartwright-outlines-hull-fc-9912346[/url:8qkj668x], we'll field the 'majority' of the first team with anyone not 100% fit missing out.

I would not risk Rapana, Sezer, Asiata, Ese'ese, Hardaker, Cartwright. Maybe not Cust either. We don't want to start the SL season missing any of them.

Difficult one. Do we go in for 40 min with decent team. Get them used to the plays etc......Then 2nd string to give them a good runout .....Then if you do that you risk injury?.......Devil you do Devil you dont

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":1w2jicpw]I would not risk Rapana, Sezer, Asiata, Ese'ese, Hardaker, Cartwright. Maybe not Cust either. We don't want to start the SL season missing any of them.[/quote:1w2jicpw] Under normal circumstances i wouldnt have played any first team players but having seen Cust and Sezer non performance against Cas i would definitely play them for at least half a game

[quote="hull2524":robeu92v]Difficult one. Do we go in for 40 min with decent team. Get them used to the plays etc......Then 2nd string to give them a good runout .....Then if you do that you risk injury?.......Devil you do Devil you dont[/quote:robeu92v] I'm assuming we can only name four on the bench, it's a competitive game.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":2kd80itc]I'm assuming we can only name four on the bench, it's a competitive game.[/quote:2kd80itc] Sorry my mistake.....Suppose start with a First team barring anyone with a niggle . Put the youngsters on the bench......As I say it's a hard one but I'm sure Cartwright has it sussed

It's certainly a difficult one really and it will be interesting to see what the coach decides selection wise. I'd go for the strongest team possible without risking anyone. Saturdays run out made it apparent that the spine need as much real match game time as possible. That leaves them open to injuries I know, but they need to be more fluent and 'co-ordinated' than they were at Cas. and coaches tell us proper contested games are the only thing that gives you that. What is most interesting for me is to see how we approach the game as a team. In past years we all know we would have gone into it thinking we had it won before we went out there, but I want to see us showing respect for the opposition but keeping our foot on the gas for the full 80 minutes. if we are well in front is when we see if we can stick to the game plan. No dropping off tackles in defence and no easing off or 'being greedy' in attack. It would be great to reward the Kemps with a place in the 17 but will they be in it for Catalan?? If not they will keep players who are to play in France out of the last full on game we have before the season proper starts. Our attitude and application will, for me, tell us a lot about the culture in the club, the amount of accountability the players have for the coach and the mental toughness this group has. It will be an interesting afternoon.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":2vkiy1i0]I would not risk Rapana, Sezer, Asiata, Ese'ese, Hardaker, Cartwright. Maybe not Cust either. We don't want to start the SL season missing any of them.[/quote:2vkiy1i0] Can’t risk Ligi either. Unless the RFL change their stance, he’ll get a big ban if he is guilty of any infringement in the next 2 games, so best he sits out the York game.

hope the club sent someone to Fev on sunday just to check out the state of the pitch! i know some people have said to play our spine, but if the pitch is like a paddy field, maybe hold back on most of the seniors, cant afford any serious injuries like our last visit to there in the cup!

[quote="number 6":10vt3f85]hope the club sent someone to Fev on sunday just to check out the state of the pitch! i know some people have said to play our spine, but if the pitch is like a paddy field, maybe hold back on most of the seniors, cant afford any serious injuries like our last visit to there in the cup![/quote:10vt3f85] https://youtu.be/HlJdHCMcR5Q?si=NRzS_Cf8BHNTN8vC Based on this video it looks pretty good tbf. As good as could be expected at this time of year certainly.

[quote="number 6":10vt3f85]hope the club sent someone to Fev on sunday just to check out the state of the pitch! i know some people have said to play our spine, but if the pitch is like a paddy field, maybe hold back on most of the seniors, cant afford any serious injuries like our last visit to there in the cup![/quote:10vt3f85] https://youtu.be/HlJdHCMcR5Q?si=NRzS_Cf8BHNTN8vC Based on this video it looks pretty good tbf. As good as could be expected at this time of year certainly.

Ligi Sao has to play as he’s so unfit still Make him play the 80 You need these games as a coach to see who’s working hard on what they did in training The video reviews can spot lazy players and we need to rid the team of laziness We need a complete discipline overhaul and once again these matches will catch you out if you drop off Not as in losing but the coach gets to see who’s bought in and who hasn’t Some players like Sao will see this as a breather match where as some like the Kemps will go hammer and tong I’d go with who hasn’t got a niggle as we do have a match the following week that really matters

For me I just wouldn’t risk Cust, Sezer, Asiata, Rapana or Hardaker. Playmakers and centres we just don’t have the cover. Had the Cross and Sneyd moves (or the Abdull situation played out differently) worked out it would be a different story but it is what it is. Hopefully we’ll either add in these positions mid season, or if we get off to a semi decent start it will just be better environment for the likes of Kemp, Charles and Westerman to come into. They have the potential I just think we need to start the season with the senior guys in these positions.

[quote="DSJ1983":1cq12g00]For me I just wouldn’t risk Cust, Sezer, Asiata, Rapana or Hardaker. Playmakers and centres we just don’t have the cover. Had the Cross and Sneyd moves (or the Abdull situation played out differently) worked out it would be a different story but it is what it is. Hopefully we’ll either add in these positions mid season, or if we get off to a semi decent start it will just be better environment for the likes of Kemp, Charles and Westerman to come into. They have the potential I just think we need to start the season with the senior guys in these positions.[/quote:1cq12g00] Cust and Sezer were non existent at Cas apart from one decent Sezer cut out pass we created very little Maybe leave out Asiata,Rapana and Hardaker for half the game but these two need some game time. Little point going into the Catalan and Wigan games with your half backs lacking game time they will be backs to the wall difficult as it is This is easy game time so get Cust running from half back which is what we need

I wouldn't play Cust or Sezer. Our season isn't going to be defined by how clinical and fluent they are in attack in game 1 of the season. You cannot play open, expansive rugby in the first month or 2 anyway due to the weather, it will be about completing set for set, and good kick chase.

If we don't play Cust and Sezer then we could use our academy halves. So C.Kemp and Thompson. Would be good experience for them if they don't get hurt. Is Balmforth still considered a possible 6? Maybe he gets a go. You could see him scoring for fun against tired amateurs.

When the cricket scores are coming in over the weekend , I can see all eyes will be turning towards IMG and Tony Sutton again .