should we be doing what salford are doing and signing almost a full new team? heard theyve signed chris sandow now aswell as chase/smith if they will gel they will be exciting to watch and if they was signed at kc we would easy smash 10k passes.

One thing is for sure he has splashed the cash in a much bigger way than AP has. AP maybe has more long term targets but you still have to keep the fans happy. Had we signed Chase or Sandow or Hock I would be very happy.

it just seems pearson and us fans want to be at the summit challenging but to be honest we have an average team but its only his decisions that guide the ship he can be advised on any player in the world salford are just proving what attracts top stars because it isnt packed grounds or a team on the verge ov the big time. not been cheeky if any red devils read this.

And what are Salford going to do when the likes of Morley, Meli, TP, Hock etc all retire within a year or two? Resign a whole new team again?
As for Sandow, they don't need him with Fages as back up. Chase, Smith and Sandow would be too good to have one missing out each week.
We need a back rower and Con Mika isn't going to cut it with the fans. We need quality and preferably an impact player. Who that could be I don't know. Not so much an impact player but with Wakey in trouble, AP should offer money for Kirmond he had a great season last season. Gives 100% every game and would be more effective than any of our back rowers from this season.

Our recruitment has been poor for many years, and often the quality players we have signed like Berrigan have been stifled by our lack of any real playmaker since the departure of Cook. We now have Miller who is a raw talent, yet I fear by the time he comes of age and is looking like the finished article, he will head for pastures new, much like Sam Moa.
While AP wants to build for the future, what is needed to generate capital within the club is bums on seats, and unfortunately the players we are acquiring ain't going to do that. While many don't like Chase or Hock, you can't deny that they have that something special, and its them kind of players that could turn our mediocre team into something special. As much as the club want to big up players like Faka and Thompson, the reality is they bring nothing to the table that we haven't already got, i fact with the players leaving it probably makes us a weaker side.
Maybe with an off season Miller/Holdsworth might gel and create some chemistry, but as the season wore on I saw little to suggest that this might happen, the problem is, where do you acquire a better half back?
It's plain to see we need a couple of game changers, and preferably a couple of big name signings that would put bums on seats. It has been a long time since we have been a top club, and if we constantly do our business with clubs below us, and with players that are not even the top players at their club, then how can we hope to progress, unless we can produce countless youngsters like Shaul and Lineham on a regular basis.

dont think wakey will let kirmond go agar said hes building there future around there captain. i agree with you about mika, an average performer from a club below us, the future is down to A.P to splash out or dont expect to much if his club hull is the way forward as will take years to reap the rewards from it so maybe not splashing out on over the hill aussies and making do with what we have and pumping all extra cash available into the youth scheme and try and get the production line producing faster.

He needs to announce the signing of Paul Gallen and Anthony Whatmough

Who'd have thought they'd want to let Smith go? They need the cash, it'd be unlikely but its worth a shout. As for Mika I couldn't care less if he was at Wigan, Wire or Huddersfield he's garbage. I don't care if we sign someone from a team below us, there's plenty of players I'd sign from below us in the team. Chase, Hock, Kirmond, Clark (if we needed him). We signed Paea from KR and he's one of the best props in the league.
If Gentle is to go, personally I'd give him until next year. But I'd be asking Tony Smith and Warrington what it would take for him to leave Wire. We need to be asking these sort of questions.

Sandow signing seems strange after shelling out for Chase & Smith !. Maybe they could beef him up again to play prop.

Hock is on a 4 year deal, prob very heavy loaded in last year to secure his services

does anyone else think our recruitment is poor mainly because of where hull is located?

before the gold rush in the nrl we seemed to sign good overseas players, j smith, swain, best, berrigan but we always struggle to attract british players as they all like to be based around the west Yorkshire/Lancashire area

yeah you could be on to something there, many of the decent players that come from lancashire that play for west yorkshire clubs they can stay put and commute but hull is just to far to travel, i defo think youth investment is the way forward we have 5 out of 14 top conference league so hull is full of RL talent. i also think fc home games should be back to sundays as the team would be not allowed to go on the lash fri/sat were as fri night games there straight out afterwards and on sat. healthier bodies healthier minds = top RL stars. imo.

It's always been a problem, players from west of the pennines in particular. Relocating is never popular, with contracts being relatively short, so if they want to change clubs, travelling is a more attractive proposition.

Of course it is.

Sandow!

I disagree, we have let a few player go and lets look at it.

Happy,
Tickle - been bad for half a season, crash ball lets drop it.
Lynch - been a good grafter but we have a team full and not anywhere near the year before.

Sad
O'meley - yes was good and was our forward to go forward.
Briscoe - Early in the year was rubbish got better at the end of the year we will miss him.

I saw loads of forum posts about having no grunt players in the forwards who could bend the line, what do Hull do sigh two players who can do that and we start complaining, yes Feka was really crap at Salford but he is in good shape and knows it is his last chance to do it in SL.

We don't know if Gentle is leaving but if as posted Radford has been in charge of our defence this season then he as done a bloody good job because that as been our only saving grace this season.

What we do need the is someone who can sort out attack out, now I don't know if it will work but again loads of posts of how we have never been great at attacking since Cooke left us, assistant coach in charge of our attacking would do for me. I will never agree with how he left us and how he gloated when he first went to rovers but I my respect for him as grown recently because of his HDM write ups he has spoken a lot of sense and he can see what is wrong.

I hope like most of us will do is maybe calm down a little, Hudds game nearly made me cry, I was devastated and would have sacked Gentle on the night had I been AP but I hope it is just HDM jumping the gun again with Gentle sacking because we need to look at everything in the cold light of day, and get to the bottom of what is wrong once and for all.

AP came out and apologized to us all, that is good enough for me and I will wait and see what he decides now is the best for the club.