with the four nations coming up at the end of the season i was just wondering which players are going to be selected. im hoping its not going to be the usual situation were players are picked just because of the name/reputation.

for example kevin sinfield, has done nothing this season that would justify a place in the squad but we all know he will be one of the 1st names on the selection sheet.

also with the exiles game, how lomax, gaskell, foster, yeaman and other inform english players didnt get in is a crime, but what really annoyed me was JJB getting picked in front of tickle. i can see it happening for the four nations aswell, what does ticks have to do to get an england call up

team for 4 nations
1.tomkins
2.hall
3.tomkins
4.reed
5.briscoe
6.lomax
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.burgess
11.westwood
12.ellis
13.oloughlin
subs
14.robinson
15.mossop
16.hock
17.crabtree

1.tomkins
2.hall
3.reed
4.yeaman
5.briscoe
6.widdop
7.brough
8.burgess
9.roby
10.graham
11.westwood
12.ellis
13.o'loughlin

14.lomax
15.tickle
16.carvell
17.wilkin

wilkin

im going on the fact he was one of the best again the exiles, i think manu has a good stake of getting in the team but i dont think to many fc players will be in this year unfortunatley

Has Reed said he'll play for England?

Tickle will have even less chance at season end with Ellis and possibly Burgess back in the running. You can almost name the 17 now:

Tomkins
Briscoe
Bridge
Shenton
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Morley
Crabtree/Carvell/McCarthy-Scarsbrook
Tomkins/Wilkin
Robinson

There'll be little difference to that.

Be the same old players and form won't count for anything

1. Tompkins S
2. Briscoe
3. Yeaman
4. Bridge
5. McGillvary
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Carvell
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin

Bench of:

Robinson
Hock
Mossop
Crabtree

We need to look past Morley/Peacock/Sinfield etc. as I think they are done at International level now but I would put my mortgage on it that these guys are included. Obviously would have Sam Burgess in there but I think I'm right in saying he is ruled out already, no?! Also went with the novel idea that all the players in the team play in that position for their clubs too, not asking players to get used to a different position/side/structure than what they do week in week out!!

i have read somewhere that reed is going to choose to play for england

same here

Probably in for Crabtree etc then on the bench.

crabtree is better then luke and has performed well on the international stage so aslong as he keeps performing well for hudds he should be well ahead of luke burgess

Don't forget this is Mcbanana we're taking about. He'll probably jusg look at the fact Lukes playing in the NRL & that will be enough of a reason to pick him.