I'm not a fan of breaking up the spine but with the plaudits Moy was getting preseason I'm really thinking we should move Rapana into the centres. Chamberlain is just poor and it's mind boggling we offered him a 3 year deal. Having said that, I still think he would do a better job in the second row than Fash can. I just think we'd be a bit better balanced and I know that Rapana isn't a established centre, I just think he would actually add an attacking threat there and sharpen things up defensively. OR I'd be happy to see Westerman given a chance but I feel like I've read either Carty or Myler say they think he's still a year away from been ready. He maybe could handle a couple of games just until Hardaker is back. It was quite painful watching Chamberlain have open space in front of him and his winger outside of him (might have been a 2 on 1) but then kicking dead for a 7 tackle set (which Wigan I think scored from?).

[quote="Hasbag":1s1gpgex]I'm not a fan of breaking up the spine but with the plaudits Moy was getting preseason I'm really thinking we should move Rapana into the centres. Chamberlain is just poor and it's mind boggling we offered him a 3 year deal. Having said that, I still think he would do a better job in the second row than Fash can. I just think we'd be a bit better balanced and I know that Rapana isn't a established centre, I just think he would actually add an attacking threat there and sharpen things up defensively. OR I'd be happy to see Westerman given a chance but I feel like I've read either Carty or Myler say they think he's still a year away from been ready. He maybe could handle a couple of games just until Hardaker is back. It was quite painful watching Chamberlain have open space in front of him and his winger outside of him (might have been a 2 on 1) but then kicking dead for a 7 tackle set (which Wigan I think scored from?).[/quote:1s1gpgex] I wouldn't argue with any of that, the only positive with Chamberlain is that he finished a game.

[quote="FC Callum":29tenr14]Expected result was just hoping we kept it tighter. Wigan were ruthless and would have put that score on a few teams in the league. Hopefully Myler can get 2/3 players in soon. The likes of Fash, Lane and Chamberlain aren’t gunna cut it if they are regulars each week but we already knew that.[/quote:29tenr14] The worry is Fash and Chamberlain are under contract for 2026 and I can see Lane's slightly improved form winning him a new deal and the club doing a '2024 player of the year resigns' announcement. With Sao and Ashworth also out of contract we need to unearth several players for the pack. Ashworth looks good when he plays but we need to assess the injury record (this week was just an illness however)

65% completion rate ! 83% v Dragons I believe These are the things Carty must work on - the basics We have to get these right and I believe we will over the course of the season 6 agains and penalties need to be less than 5 a game combined with 85% completion rate a minimum standard Carty has to work on the basics and I’m sure he will talk about it most of the season We need a squad overhaul as we all know Fash Sao and Lane to move on and be replaced by 2 props and a second row bit all of at least 75% more quality and fitness We still need that massive centre who scores 20+ tries a season Richie Barnett Snr type player Anyways onwards and upwards We don’t want to lose the next 2 matches on the spin

Even in a heavy defeat, you could at least recognise structures being put in place. Been a while since I’ve seen a Hull side with even a little bit of shape. Personnel just not at the standard needed to get anywhere near a team like Wigan. Years of abysmal recruitment and retention will take a while to correct. Think we have the right people in place to make it happen.