[code][/code][quote="Dave K.":2hoj17q7]I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul. I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.[/quote:2hoj17q7] I spoke to a member of the backroom staff today. Said that even he’s not 100% sure if he’s gone but not seen him for a few days so assumes he has. Said he’s got about 15kg to lose and that when you’re in the dreaded ACL recovery group, you see a lot about a player. Been lazy with his recovery and they’re not 100% on how his knee will hold up with all his weight. I was fuming when I heard he was going as I think he could be a real talent but if he’s not got the right mentality. I guess it’s on to the next player. Said that everyone is feeling class after a tough preseason but thinks we’re still a cycle away from where we want to be as TS didn’t prioritise strength work enough so the clubs not where it should be but heading in the right direction now. Used Martin as the prime example. Got real talent, and good leg strength but not physically developed up top yet unlike Barron who had always put a lot of extra work in at the gym

[quote="bonaire":3a5q51el]Think you are in the minority there backing the clubs decision It cant be a coach decision because he hasnt had time to see him play but it seems a strange one because the club actually gave him his chance at first team level and he seemed to rise to that before his injury so given there is little in front of him now at the club in either Holmes Lane or Chamberlain it looks like he has signed for another club but will spend the season at Castleford. My take would be that Myler knowing he cocked up with Abdull wouldnt take the chance of a new deal for Staveley so early in the season Think we have lossed a good prospect[/quote:3a5q51el] He never saw Abdull play but Cartwright got rid of him.

[quote="Cuddleclub":2j8oyzde]Well that’s two gone who obviously can’t get up to the desired standards of fitness, just got to back Cartwrights judgement. 11 plus months on from an ACL and still not back fit should be 6-9 months, maybe question marks on his desire to get fit.[/quote:2j8oyzde] It's not just about a coaches judgement on how you play or train but about your whole application to the career and the group. You toe the line follow the instructions and get your head down with Cartwright, or your out, the coaches and physios do their bit but the players have to do theirs, that's what one of the assistant coaches told me weeks ago on this subject. And so it has been!! This is not just strong action, but also a lesson for the rest I guess!

A hard nosed NRL coach, who’s worked in elite environments over the last twenty years, makes a decision on a player. I’m comfortable with whatever conclusion he reaches.

[quote="Irregs#16":artqn8jz]It is a really odd one. The way he is built, perhaps doesn't lend itself to this injury not repeating itself? Or, it could be what Myler was alluding to last week, the December 1st deadline for players beginning talks, and he was going to leave at the end of the year, so we thought we would release him a year early.[/quote:artqn8jz] ACL injuries are not about your build ( I work in the injury profession) There’s a lot of speculation about why he’s going but the most obvious one is that he wants to. That would be a good reason to release him. Like most my feeling is that he’d have done well for us but if he’s not fully committed then we need him to go. As people have said we need to trust the coaches

I’m a little disappointed that a young talent has left but like most others on here , I’m happy to go with myler and Cartwrights opinion’s on the matter . Good luck to him at cas