To me just another 'prospect' - to me never looked likely to command a starting position, even with the odd injury. Is the reality that such guys actually become the blockers for the young guys coming through who have more potential, ambition & buy in to the new culture ? For me I am over the moon the new regime are content to make changes - if they fail the attitude test then time to move on. Regarding Cocie Wainhouse, sad to hear suggestions that he may be going the same way. BUT some on here have MASSIVELY bigged him up which could actually be the problem ? Great to read Carty's comments boosting players but balancing it with reason - 'He has loads to learn' or @physically he isn't there' .

[quote="The Dentist Wilf":lea2cvta]Since I heard about it three weeks ago my mind went straight to his friendship with Pete Riding and the worries we had about Balmforth going East with him, so Rovers favourite for me.[/quote:lea2cvta] Heaven forbid they promote from within, but best of luck to him whatever the reasons for his move are. At the end of the today I’d rather we have a team of players that are 100% committed, if he wasn’t fully committed due to Pete Riding not been at the club then no issue with the club letting him go elsewhere.

[quote="Chris71":tkqzwvjz]Heaven forbid they promote from within, but best of luck to him whatever the reasons for his move are. At the end of the today I’d rather we have a team of players that are 100% committed, if he wasn’t fully committed due to Pete Riding not been at the club then no issue with the club letting him go elsewhere.[/quote:tkqzwvjz] The culture has been wrong in the club for decades now. If we lose a few in putting that right, that’s fine. Carty & Myler give us an opportunity to finally put it right, backed by the owners.

Perhaps Cartwright has also seen a lot of potential in Kirby or somebody like Lennon Clark aswell during pre season and thinks they will be able to fill a gap left by Staveley

Disappointing IF Staveley is leaving.... My guess is he's already signed for another club, and that club has no cap space this season (probably Hull kr) maybe we wanted to see, how his fitness is progressing, before offering a contract extension , or another club were willing to take a gamble on his fitness. At the end of the day, im confident on the club's decision .

[quote="weaver93":2fdye0jb]Disappointing IF Staveley is leaving.... My guess is he's already signed for another club, and that club has no cap space this season (probably Hull kr) maybe we wanted to see, how his fitness is progressing, before offering a contract extension , or another club were willing to take a gamble on his fitness. At the end of the day, im confident on the club's decision .[/quote:2fdye0jb] I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul. I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.