[quote="Oafy":1d2eie0i]Why sign him if he needed a knee op then? And wait until now to address it?[/quote:1d2eie0i] Why did Rovers sign Ryan Hall off the back of 2 ACL injuries? I've said we probably should've got it looked at at the start of pre season, but ideally it would've been looked at last season. Catalans and Rovers refused to pay for an op to get his knee cleaned out as he was moving on

[quote="RockNRolla":1pe5a4il]8-10 weeks out for Abdull i've been told this morning.[/quote:1pe5a4il] Then back for a match, knee goes agai and we send him for the op

[quote="RockNRolla":1jp094d4]8-10 weeks out for Abdull i've been told this morning.[/quote:1jp094d4] Is that the knee clean out or rehab?

[quote="Mild Rover":1fetbbod]Hull really needed a clean slate after last year. With new ownership, a new coach and a squad that has been rebuilt very quickly, you have got that. The fresh start is definitely a positive but it does mean that this year and probably next year, to a lesser degree, [b:1fetbbod]will have to be about getting foundations in place.[/b:1fetbbod] Myler’s job, so far, could be seen as easy or difficult depending on how you look at it - because what else could he do? Money can accelerate a rebuild but in fairness the new owners have already put in quite a bit, by RL standards, just to stop the club from going under. It’s easy to think ‘what’s a few million here or there, when you’re that wealthy?’, especially when it is somebody else’s money. It’s worth remembering that a lot of that wealth will be in businesses, investments and property that they won’t want to liquidate, rather than sat in current accounts waiting to be spent on transfer fees or big marquee wages. They won’t want to be embarrassed and I’m sure there’s plenty enough to make a difference over time. But the ‘no money out for 3 years’ thing feels like it was included in Pearson’s statement to temper expectations. Possibly, optimistically. [/quote:1fetbbod] You are Kier Starmer and I claim my £5

[quote="The Dentist Wilf":1eb510k4]This argument is poor for me because the whole situation on recruitment is summed up in one sentence. If you were an up and coming or even an established success in Super League at the end of last season when talent was in short supply and every team was looking, would you have come to Hull FC? Because of the salary cap you can't pay phenomenal amounts to several players, so across the board I think we have probably compared with this time last season, got the best we could get!! For me, its certainly a lot better squad.[/quote:1eb510k4] We have room on the salary cap now and if we hadnt wasted money on signing the likes of Chamberlain,Briscoe and Abdul then it would have been quite possible to add two quality players. Little point saying would players come to Hull FC .You have to have the ability to sell the club to players irrespective of last seasons position.Pearson did it with Gaz Ellis and im sure Motu has had to do some selling when at the club then there was the Bunting era when someone at the club did a great job of promoting Hull FC Some people have that abilty others dont I agree the squad is more experienced should be stronger on the field and if the fitness levels are raised much higher which it seems is happening under Cartwright then we should compete but lack of strike in the backline is alarming and we dont have the forward strength to dominate teams up front to compensate

[quote="bonaire":adj2o5z4]We have room on the salary cap now and if we hadnt wasted money on signing the likes of Chamberlain,Briscoe and Abdul then it would have been quite possible to add two quality players. Little point saying would players come to Hull FC .You have to have the ability to sell the club to players irrespective of last seasons position.Pearson did it with Gaz Ellis and im sure Motu has had to do some selling when at the club then there was the Bunting era when someone at the club did a great job of promoting Hull FC Some people have that abilty others dont I agree the squad is more experienced should be stronger on the field and if the fitness levels are raised much higher which it seems is happening under Cartwright then we should compete but lack of strike in the backline is alarming and we dont have the forward strength to dominate teams up front to compensate[/quote:adj2o5z4] I would respectively suggest that in answer to your points selling the club to Gareth Ellis with a team that had just finished 6th in the League, had an average attendance of well over 11,000 and had Yeaman Tickle Westerman O'Meley, Willie Manu Tom Briscoe Richard Horne Heramaia and Rich Whiting all signed up was a lot easier than selling the rag bag we had representing us last season to anyone!! The same goes for Motu who benefitted greatly by the number of NRL players who were clambering to get to Super league because the difference between the two leagues was so much closer and he had the contacts in abundance. And as for Arthur Bunting, he oversaw an era in which I only missed 7 games home and away. Well he inherited two big signings from DDD and then attracted the best players in the British game to the club simply by offering them '3 times more than any one else could afford' if we wanted a player we just got him, as we were at the time the richest club in the game. With no salary cap money talked and we had it. I once asked Knocker exactly why he signed for us and he replied very honestly for the money. I still maintain that selling the current HullFC to players in a buyers market such as exists in Super League at present was a tough one. We have actually got a couple of players I would never have thought we would have. Give Myler and Cartwright and indeed our new owners a chance for once.