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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "in the current scheme finish 11th as a grade B club with whats happening at clubs below us could see us relegated anyway.'"


Got to remember here that Huddersfield and Salford can't easily improve their score either. Both have good grounds, both have issues with crowds and income, but different scenarios with on the field performance. And as performance is a 3 year average even a dramatic change such as finishing bottom one year and top then next doesn't suddenly make for a great performance score.

Bradford are spending big but are 2.6 points behind us. Even if they win the 1895 cup and Grand Final it's still a big gap to make up. London will fall back now the owner is walking away. Aside from winning the trophies it's not clear what else Toulouse could do to massively improve their score either.

Overall I'm not too concerned and highly likely the game will tweak the process anyway I've watched RL long enough to know those in charge are a set of tinker men.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "I just thought a grade b was a grade b, not different levels of grading depending on score. My understanding of those new proposals was that any grade b club who finish bottom are at risk'"


What I've read is:

'The clubs will be re-assessed every year. Teams will stay in the top flight if they keep their Grade A status, with the best of the Grade B clubs them making up the rest of the competition.'

So for the moment we are the best rated GradeB club, and 10th place overall so 3 GradeB clubs would need to get a better score to relegate us. Obviously it's get complicated if we finish poorly again and a championship clubs bags bonus points for Cup and League wins but ultimately I don't see 3 clubs overturning us in the scores in 1 year,

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Quote: Roam Ranger "rlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/promotion-relegation-rugby-league-meeting-9707206rl

This is the article discussing the proposal from the HDM. Basically, the idea is that whoever wins the Championship gets promoted as long as they are a Grade B club. Doesn't matter where they actually rank points wise against their peers so they can be the lowest ranked Grade B club in the Championship but if they win it, they're promoted. In terms of relegation, they would replace the lowest ranked Grade B team in Super League. Not the lowest placed Grade B team. So as things stand, Salford are the lowest ranked Grade B club in Super League and would be the ones under threat regardless of league position. If all clubs in Super League are Grade A clubs, the league would be expanded to accommodate the Championship winner.

Personally I think that they either need to stick to the IMG grading system (certain aspects of the criteria's need tweaking of course) or go back to straight up promotion and relegation. This just sounds far too convoluted trying to accommodate both ideas and I can see there been some real controversy in the future on this.'"


As you say whoever wins the Championship/Play Off Final gets promoted as long as they are a Grade B club so conversely any club in SL that finishes bottom should be relegated grade B or A as I can't see the point of relegating a club on grade score rather than finishing bottom. It just wouldn't make sense when clubs in SL are A or B anyway and you have to be a B or higher to gain promotion like Wakefield have.

So its should be as simple as any club that wins promotion goes up (as long as they hold a B grade as minimum) and any SL club that finishes bottom is relegated (whether A or B). But in true RL fashion in the UK we have to make it far more complicated than it should or needs to be.

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Quote: UllFC "What I've read is
fair enough. I'd not taken too much notice but the whole system seems a POS. When are they regrading? It could be that a team thinks they're safe sat in 6th place then suddenly be relegated as someone else has got a higher grading than them

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Quote: Jake the Peg "fair enough. I'd not taken too much notice but the whole system seems a POS. When are they regrading? It could be that a team thinks they're safe sat in 6th place then suddenly be relegated as someone else has got a higher grading than them'"


Same time of year again in October.

But again the league finish for one year doesn't really drastically alter things as it's a 3 year average in theory a club could finish 12th, 12th and then get a billionaire owner and sign the NSW SOO Team and finish 1st and still have an average of 8th for the scores. It has to be 2 or 3 years of sucess to nudge the scores really upwards.

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Quote: UllFC "Same time of year again in October.

But again the league finish for one year doesn't really drastically alter things as it's a 3 year average in theory a club could finish 12th, 12th and then get a billionaire owner and sign the NSW SOO Team and finish 1st and still have an average of 8th for the scores. It has to be 2 or 3 years of sucess to nudge the scores really upwards.'"

not just about league places though is it. You could get another teanm sorting issues out and coming higher like we are hoping to.

Either way it's a shambles. No one in their right mind expected to see waky and cas get grade A's

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