This. 8-9K crowds and the team getting hammered every week in a 25K stadium looks empty and the atmosphere is poor. We’ve proven we can attract nearer 15K regularly if we have a play off standard team and who knows what the ceiling is if we ever have period of real success. The crowds and atmosphere will sort itself out if the playing side does.

The stadium has looked less like home in recent years but we’ve been unable to pay for some of the stuff City do. Don’t see why we couldn’t name a stand and have more influence on the little things if we can afford to do so.

Most interesting for me was the stadium comments. So despite the victimhood some of our fans have manufactured about the SMC and no doubt helped by lies spread by Rovers fans AT said him and David have looked at the lease and think it’s a very good deal. Two self made businessmen worth half a billion quid have looked at it and knowing the terms have decided to buy the club, I think we can safely say it’s a complete myth when white trolls claim the rent is ‘crippling’ Hull.

Also, maybe it’s just my interpretation but the words AT used were interesting. He said they didn’t really want to re-negotiate the lease. I know it’s been mentioned on here but never confirmed that the lease is actually for 50 years but the 25 year point was simply there for re-negotiation if circumstances had majorly changed. To me that seems to make massive sense now. I find it hard to believe the club would have been sold especially to major players like that had there been any chance we could be ‘booted out’ and left homeless in 3 years, again another popular myth mostly peddled by our red and white friends. AP and AT seemed very relaxed about the situation and seems maybe as fans we’ve put too much emphasis on the 2027 stadium situation.

Just watched the extra 15 minutes and recommend it to everyone to do so. One thing that has really struck me from that extra part is that they acknowledge that the matchday experience has to improve and whilst they talk about improving fan zone's pre and post match, they still feel the best way to do that is by delivering an attractive product on the field that we can get behind.

I think something that also added fuel to the flames on the lease situation was AP's very poor relationship with the Allam's when they were in charge of City and the SMC which at times was publicly fought out in the media. That's not a dig at him as he's made it very clear how much that relationship has improved with the new owners, just saying it helped create a picture in people's minds of tensions and that the lease may have been more precarious than it actually was in reality.

AP even admitted in that extra bit of the forum that the club has been choosing not to pay for certain things at the stadium whereas the myth there was that the SMC were behind it all.

Absolutely. I mentioned that on here just before the forum. AP called it stadium branding and we’ve taken a decision not to spend on it. With Covid and such it was likely the right call and hopefully now might be able to make it more like home again. Hardly fair if City pay for these things (the tiger print on the stairs for instance) if Hull got it for free. Get things sorted on the pitch and then I’m sure the other stuff will follow.

I especially enjoyed the bit where AT mentioned about a conversation he had with Nigel Wood?