Gaz Ellis also spotted helping to oversee training this morning

Was fortunate to get one of the player's telephone calls yesterday evening (Yusuf Aydin) and he said someting very similar. Recalling how Aydin impressed me with how he threw himself into every game last season, I sense that those type of players will revel in Cartwright's approach.

How the bloody hell did you heel a divot in that concrete never mind hold the ball up to kick. West Dock Infants year 1958

Oliver Holmes in any training footage?

The guy who wrote the book on man management was Roy Francis - Smith was not in the same ballpark.

Smith was fairly successful in Aus but was also known as the coach who never won anything in spite of having some great teams (like Parramatta). Had 4 goes at winning GF's and lost all four - hardly a messiah.

Very successful at winning wooden spoons, however, with 3 to his name,