I couldn't agree more Dave many years of heartache and pain and a few vary rare ones of great times has gone to prove that nothing is won through fine words, heightened expectations, 'great pre seasons' iconic kits, big promises or indeed the allocation of squad numbers. They are won bye everyone having the right attitude to the game and their colleagues, quality players a game plan and hard bloody work. The numbers this year have obviously been given out so early to simply eradicate one distraction later on in the process, everyone knows before they start what their number is it means nowt and they all start with a clean sheet now get on with it.

Now now let's not spoil a good witch hunt

Did he look fat and did he look motivated in the pool tho? Must have details in our pre season stalking

Abdull expected to return to training before Christmas

rlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc-injury-update-including-9773490?505

My Mrs saw Abdul today and said he has lost loads of weight and looks younger…I believe her more than some of the “in the know” posters on here.