Quote: al283 "It is an interesting debate.
The 'cancer in the club' has now been touted for many many seasons - I have no idea if that is or ever has been true ? Almost certain it has been in the past but far less certain with the current crew.
Culture is the current 'In' word which I fully support - aspiration, accountability, responsibility & an outright determination to win is priceless in RL.
I rarely saw lack of effort this year ( after TS departed ) but we did see lack of tactics, fitness & frankly boys bravely trying to do mens work & being ground down by sheer bulk & strength.'"
Effort has been there but that has been all that was there, as you say there has been little evidence of anything else certainly in terms of structure, tactics, discipline and fitness etc. We have for far too long looked a disorganised rabble with very little leadership on the field, which is hardly surprising when we didn't replace leaders like Ellis, Mini & Sika.